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No, but I'm sure many of the people working on it will continue to deny that they are simply building tools of control. That, or they don't care, or think it's

by Zarath 8y ago

No, but I'm sure many of the people working on it will continue to deny that they are simply building tools of control. That, or they don't care, or think it's a good thing.

mulmen 8y ago
I'm honestly not sure how I feel about the expectation that employees and corporations act with some (or any) kind of morality beyond "make money legally". Philosophically I would rather laws and social norms are enforced by law and not corporations or individuals with disproportionate influence.
- slededit 8y ago
  Are they not citizens? Surely a person has a duty above personal wealth. Past generations certainly thought that way.
  - mulmen 8y ago
    I’m not sure about you but my personal identify is not wholly made up of my employment. My comment is clearly about the danger of imposing morality through corporate influence. I did not say that a person’s entire responsibility is to enrich themselves. I said that is the responsibility of an employee. People can and do have complex and sometimes conflicting interests and responsibilities.
Amezarak 8y ago
There's not enough upvotes for this comment. This what the Silicon Valley mindset leads to. This is what the attitude that even if technology isn't good and empowering, it's inevitable, leads to. This is what the "whatever it takes to make money" mindset leads to. This is what all these brave young engineers going out there to "change the world" and make it a better place have done. Totalitarianism, forever. Take solace, though, citizen: it's not just the government tracking everything you do, it's everyone! It makes me sick. I wish I had never gone into CS. I too am a collaborator. If it were up to me, we'd destroy the machines in a Butlerian Jihad. The road we're going down is dystopia with no way out. The tools of control will be total, all-encompassing, omniscient.

by Zarath 8y ago

No, but I'm sure many of the people working on it will continue to deny that they are simply building tools of control. That, or they don't care, or think it's a good thing.

mulmen 8y ago

I'm honestly not sure how I feel about the expectation that employees and corporations act with some (or any) kind of morality beyond "make money legally". Philosophically I would rather laws and social norms are enforced by law and not corporations or individuals with disproportionate influence.

slededit 8y ago
Are they not citizens? Surely a person has a duty above personal wealth. Past generations certainly thought that way.
- mulmen 8y ago
  I’m not sure about you but my personal identify is not wholly made up of my employment. My comment is clearly about the danger of imposing morality through corporate influence. I did not say that a person’s entire responsibility is to enrich themselves. I said that is the responsibility of an employee. People can and do have complex and sometimes conflicting interests and responsibilities.

Amezarak 8y ago

There's not enough upvotes for this comment. This what the Silicon Valley mindset leads to. This is what the attitude that even if technology isn't good and empowering, it's inevitable, leads to. This is what the "whatever it takes to make money" mindset leads to. This is what all these brave young engineers going out there to "change the world" and make it a better place have done. Totalitarianism, forever. Take solace, though, citizen: it's not just the government tracking everything you do, it's everyone! It makes me sick. I wish I had never gone into CS. I too am a collaborator. If it were up to me, we'd destroy the machines in a Butlerian Jihad. The road we're going down is dystopia with no way out. The tools of control will be total, all-encompassing, omniscient.