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>If he did not have those tax protections he would lose the home he raised his family in and have to move immediately. He would not “lose” his house immediatel

>If he did not have those tax protections he would lose the home he raised his family in and have to move immediately. He would not “lose” his house immediately. He would be forced to sell it for an outrageous profit and move somewhere he can afford to pay the taxes. Subsidies are subsidies, and I have zero sympathy for those who don’t feel like they’re getting enough when people are literally being forced into homelessness from the knock-on effect of this policy to low-net worth renters.

almost_usual 8y ago
You can't force people to move this way, there is no way Prop 13 will change with this stance. It's essentially the same sentiment as "Don't like the laws and don't want to pay more than natives? Leave the Bay Area then, you have the whole rest of the country to move to." Both sides are extreme, comprises need to be made to get anything through.
- aphextron 8y ago
  >You can't force people to move this way There's 49 other states in this country where that's exactly what happens every single day. Should the city of Palo Alto subsidize them, too? >Both sides are extreme, comprises need to be made to get anything through. This is just a false equivalence. Prop 13 is the extreme here. There's nothing even remotely comparable anywhere else in the country. Asking people to pay their fair share of taxes is not "extreme". If we need to subsidize older homeowners who can't afford their homes, that's another discussion to be had and another funding source should be found. Doing it through property taxes has made this place unlivable.
  - almost_usual 8y ago
    >There's 49 other states in this country where that's exactly what happens every single day. Should the city of Palo Alto subsidize them, too? So there's 49 other states __you__ can move to and not deal with Prop 13? That's reality right now and if you're going to be headstrong that's how the community will respond to your reasoning.
    - aphextron 8y ago
      >So there's 49 other states __you__ can move to and not deal with Prop 13? That's reality right now and if you're going to be headstrong that's how the community will respond to your reasoning. Ah yes, and there's the classic "I got mine, so screw you" mentality of California. What a nightmare.

almost_usual 8y ago

You can't force people to move this way, there is no way Prop 13 will change with this stance. It's essentially the same sentiment as "Don't like the laws and don't want to pay more than natives? Leave the Bay Area then, you have the whole rest of the country to move to." Both sides are extreme, comprises need to be made to get anything through.

aphextron 8y ago
>You can't force people to move this way There's 49 other states in this country where that's exactly what happens every single day. Should the city of Palo Alto subsidize them, too? >Both sides are extreme, comprises need to be made to get anything through. This is just a false equivalence. Prop 13 is the extreme here. There's nothing even remotely comparable anywhere else in the country. Asking people to pay their fair share of taxes is not "extreme". If we need to subsidize older homeowners who can't afford their homes, that's another discussion to be had and another funding source should be found. Doing it through property taxes has made this place unlivable.
- almost_usual 8y ago
  >There's 49 other states in this country where that's exactly what happens every single day. Should the city of Palo Alto subsidize them, too? So there's 49 other states __you__ can move to and not deal with Prop 13? That's reality right now and if you're going to be headstrong that's how the community will respond to your reasoning.
  - aphextron 8y ago
    >So there's 49 other states __you__ can move to and not deal with Prop 13? That's reality right now and if you're going to be headstrong that's how the community will respond to your reasoning. Ah yes, and there's the classic "I got mine, so screw you" mentality of California. What a nightmare.