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Computer should do what I want! I'm the boss! If I don't want to reboot, no reboot!! Computer should not annoy me! I'm the boss!

cptskippy 8y ago
The behavior was implemented because in past versions of Windows people neglected to update or outright refused and this left them vulnerable to all manner of malicious attacks. Unfortunately these attacks weren't just to carry out actions against the owners of those computers. The computers were turned into zombie members of botnets that performed all manner of bad things on the internet from attacks on sites to relaying spam.
- rusk 8y ago
  Of course I understand that it’s a strategy for getting away with shipping poor software ... however, as a responsible and experienced user I should be able to disable this (oh yeah I can pay for the privilege by paying for the pro version). and even then, it’s completely wrong to be force an upgrade when the computer is in use
  - cptskippy 8y ago
    > Of course I understand that it’s a strategy for getting away with shipping poor software That's just an excuse you're using to justify your frustration about having a freedom taken away because of bad actors. > however, as a responsible and experienced user I should be able to disable this. and even then, it’s completely wrong to be force an upgrade when the computer is in use How do you propose we sort out the irresponsible users and keep them from disabling this feature after watching some youtube video on how to boost system performance? > (oh yeah I can pay for the privilege by paying for the pro version) Not with Pro you can't. Only with Enterprise and it only exists there because the assumption exists that the organization will force updates at it's own rate.
- snowwindwaves 8y ago
  I haven't applied updates in over a year on windows 7. Before I do I take an image of my disk so I can go revert all changes. I check each one to see what it is going to change. This takes a lot of time so I don't want to do it every week. I wait until I am between critical tasks or projects. I rely on my computer to make money which I use to pay for food and accommodation! I rely on my computer to run simulations which can take weeks. I can't have it randomly rebooting in the middle of them and setting me back! My customers rely on me and my computer and the esoteric software installed on it to make their plants run. I can't have major system components changing underneath it risking the functionality of the computer! I can be responsible for myself and my computer and not click stupid links and open stupid attachments or even be connected to hostile networks with all kinds of TCP/UDP ports open. In the event that it happened I would rather my computer was part of a botnet temporarily then regularly risking my ability to feed and house my family. I don't run antivirus software other than windows defender either. it is the cure worse than the disease.
  - cptskippy 8y ago
    > I rely on my computer to run simulations which can take weeks. I can't have it randomly rebooting in the middle of them and setting me back! My customers rely on me and my computer and the esoteric software installed on it to make their plants run. It sounds like there is something very wrong with your development process if you and your clients are reliant on a single computer. > I can be responsible for myself and my computer and not click stupid links and open stupid attachments or even be connected to hostile networks with all kinds of TCP/UDP ports open. In the event that it happened I would rather my computer was part of a botnet temporarily then regularly risking my ability to feed and house my family. Wow... just... I don't even know where to start with this. You're reliant on a single point of failure for your entire livelihood. What happens if you have a hardware failure?
    - snowwindwaves 8y ago
      i have a spare (identical) computer, i have backups on site and offsite of my disk images and virtual machines. in the smaller power plants I work in it is all single points of failure. one transformer, one hydraulic cylinder controlling the turbine flow, one hydraulic cylinder controlling the inlet valve, one PLC, one computer running the HMI software, one protection relay for the power line, one protection relay for the generator. if any one of the things fails everything stops.

cptskippy 8y ago

The behavior was implemented because in past versions of Windows people neglected to update or outright refused and this left them vulnerable to all manner of malicious attacks. Unfortunately these attacks weren't just to carry out actions against the owners of those computers. The computers were turned into zombie members of botnets that performed all manner of bad things on the internet from attacks on sites to relaying spam.

rusk 8y ago
Of course I understand that it’s a strategy for getting away with shipping poor software ... however, as a responsible and experienced user I should be able to disable this (oh yeah I can pay for the privilege by paying for the pro version). and even then, it’s completely wrong to be force an upgrade when the computer is in use
- cptskippy 8y ago
  > Of course I understand that it’s a strategy for getting away with shipping poor software That's just an excuse you're using to justify your frustration about having a freedom taken away because of bad actors. > however, as a responsible and experienced user I should be able to disable this. and even then, it’s completely wrong to be force an upgrade when the computer is in use How do you propose we sort out the irresponsible users and keep them from disabling this feature after watching some youtube video on how to boost system performance? > (oh yeah I can pay for the privilege by paying for the pro version) Not with Pro you can't. Only with Enterprise and it only exists there because the assumption exists that the organization will force updates at it's own rate.
snowwindwaves 8y ago
I haven't applied updates in over a year on windows 7. Before I do I take an image of my disk so I can go revert all changes. I check each one to see what it is going to change. This takes a lot of time so I don't want to do it every week. I wait until I am between critical tasks or projects. I rely on my computer to make money which I use to pay for food and accommodation! I rely on my computer to run simulations which can take weeks. I can't have it randomly rebooting in the middle of them and setting me back! My customers rely on me and my computer and the esoteric software installed on it to make their plants run. I can't have major system components changing underneath it risking the functionality of the computer! I can be responsible for myself and my computer and not click stupid links and open stupid attachments or even be connected to hostile networks with all kinds of TCP/UDP ports open. In the event that it happened I would rather my computer was part of a botnet temporarily then regularly risking my ability to feed and house my family. I don't run antivirus software other than windows defender either. it is the cure worse than the disease.
- cptskippy 8y ago
  > I rely on my computer to run simulations which can take weeks. I can't have it randomly rebooting in the middle of them and setting me back! My customers rely on me and my computer and the esoteric software installed on it to make their plants run. It sounds like there is something very wrong with your development process if you and your clients are reliant on a single computer. > I can be responsible for myself and my computer and not click stupid links and open stupid attachments or even be connected to hostile networks with all kinds of TCP/UDP ports open. In the event that it happened I would rather my computer was part of a botnet temporarily then regularly risking my ability to feed and house my family. Wow... just... I don't even know where to start with this. You're reliant on a single point of failure for your entire livelihood. What happens if you have a hardware failure?
  - snowwindwaves 8y ago
    i have a spare (identical) computer, i have backups on site and offsite of my disk images and virtual machines. in the smaller power plants I work in it is all single points of failure. one transformer, one hydraulic cylinder controlling the turbine flow, one hydraulic cylinder controlling the inlet valve, one PLC, one computer running the HMI software, one protection relay for the power line, one protection relay for the generator. if any one of the things fails everything stops.