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As an evening person, personally I find it more optimal if it stays light until later in the evening, and less light is wasted on morning times like 7am But no

As an evening person, personally I find it more optimal if it stays light until later in the evening, and less light is wasted on morning times like 7am But now that I think about it, maybe moving time like that also moves around when other people will be awake/asleep. So what actually defines an evening person? -a relationship between when it's light and when it's dark? -a relationship between when other people are awake and asleep and schedules like typical working hours (a desire to be awake after others went to bed, as opposed to a desire to be awake before others get up in the morning) -a relationship to the 24 numbers assigned to certain times of the day? I'm an evening person but especially in winter would like more light in the evening. So I guess what I really prioritize is being awake after other went asleep, instead of when it's light/dark, even if it makes me miss out on some light that I would like to see. Or maybe my biological clock thinks differently than what my mind wants...

colechristensen 8y ago
From what I have experienced, some people have a strong cognitive bias towards the numbers on a clock, for example, needing to look at a clock in bed to decide if they are still tired. (or worse getting up happy and awake to be devastated to learn it is early morning after a few minutes) People tend to identify themselves as a certain way, and those ideas have a strong impact on behaviors and desires. Of course it's silly to link how tired you feel to a clock, but it happens! If you'd like more light towards the end of your day wake up earlier! (and sleep earlier) Try to realize that when you feel you want to be awake and asleep might have a lot more to do with an image of yourself you have attached to instead of any biological cause.
- staplers 8y ago
  needing to look at a clock in bed to decide if they are still tired You make a great point here and it almost reminds me of addict behavior. I would be curious to see which pathways are illuminated in the brain with regards to 'checking the time' during resting hours.
  - kzrdude 8y ago
    To work well, should be “addicted” to our routine, shouldn't we? As in, follow it almost every day.
    - colechristensen 8y ago
      There is probably a lot of philosophy/linguistics/neuroscience to do, but there is a difference between habit and addiction. Addiction seems like a toxic shortcut to get what you want out of life, even if the "addiction" is to a benign behavior like sleep schedule.
TeMPOraL 8y ago
For me, it's the perceived indefinite time alone and undisturbed after everyone else went to sleep. I feel better late at night than early in the morning, because in the latter case, I feel constant pressure of free time running out as the world around me wakes up - whereas late at night, I'm limited only by how tired I am.
dahart 8y ago
> As an evening person, personally I find it more optimal if it stays light until later in the evening, and less light is wasted on morning times like 7am Someone like you is why daylight savings time was invented originally. I must be an evening person too because I used to think I was opposed, and then I looked at the graph of sunrise and sunset times over the year and realized what summer looks like without daylight savings, we'd waste half the sunlight before most people wake up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time#/media/File:Greenwich_GB_DaylightChart.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time#/media/Fi...
- sanderjd 8y ago
  I've always thought we should get rid of the time switch, but keep it at the "daylight time" value rather than the "standard time" value.
  - dahart 8y ago
    That's definitely an option, if enough people want it. It would keep things lighter in the winter evenings. The major downside would be sunrise after 9:00am in the winter, so waking up, getting ready, breakfast, and commuting all in the dark. * I wonder if people in the Arctic region, like Greenland, Iceland, Finland & Svalbard just roll their eyes when Americans talk about DST? ;)

colechristensen 8y ago

From what I have experienced, some people have a strong cognitive bias towards the numbers on a clock, for example, needing to look at a clock in bed to decide if they are still tired. (or worse getting up happy and awake to be devastated to learn it is early morning after a few minutes) People tend to identify themselves as a certain way, and those ideas have a strong impact on behaviors and desires. Of course it's silly to link how tired you feel to a clock, but it happens! If you'd like more light towards the end of your day wake up earlier! (and sleep earlier) Try to realize that when you feel you want to be awake and asleep might have a lot more to do with an image of yourself you have attached to instead of any biological cause.

staplers 8y ago
needing to look at a clock in bed to decide if they are still tired You make a great point here and it almost reminds me of addict behavior. I would be curious to see which pathways are illuminated in the brain with regards to 'checking the time' during resting hours.
- kzrdude 8y ago
  To work well, should be “addicted” to our routine, shouldn't we? As in, follow it almost every day.
  - colechristensen 8y ago
    There is probably a lot of philosophy/linguistics/neuroscience to do, but there is a difference between habit and addiction. Addiction seems like a toxic shortcut to get what you want out of life, even if the "addiction" is to a benign behavior like sleep schedule.

TeMPOraL 8y ago

For me, it's the perceived indefinite time alone and undisturbed after everyone else went to sleep. I feel better late at night than early in the morning, because in the latter case, I feel constant pressure of free time running out as the world around me wakes up - whereas late at night, I'm limited only by how tired I am.

dahart 8y ago

> As an evening person, personally I find it more optimal if it stays light until later in the evening, and less light is wasted on morning times like 7am Someone like you is why daylight savings time was invented originally. I must be an evening person too because I used to think I was opposed, and then I looked at the graph of sunrise and sunset times over the year and realized what summer looks like without daylight savings, we'd waste half the sunlight before most people wake up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time#/media/File:Greenwich_GB_DaylightChart.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time#/media/Fi...

sanderjd 8y ago
I've always thought we should get rid of the time switch, but keep it at the "daylight time" value rather than the "standard time" value.
- dahart 8y ago
  That's definitely an option, if enough people want it. It would keep things lighter in the winter evenings. The major downside would be sunrise after 9:00am in the winter, so waking up, getting ready, breakfast, and commuting all in the dark. * I wonder if people in the Arctic region, like Greenland, Iceland, Finland & Svalbard just roll their eyes when Americans talk about DST? ;)