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https://www.dawn.com/news/1344685 https://www.dawn.com/news/1344685 > In a separate email, de Groot, the font designer himself, said that while in theory it wo
by philliphaydon 8y ago
https://www.dawn.com/news/1344685 https://www.dawn.com/news/1344685
> In a separate email, de Groot, the font designer himself, said that while in theory it would have been possible to create a document using Calibri in 2006, the font would have to be obtained from a beta operating system, "from the hands of computer nerds".
> "Why would anyone use a completely unknown font for an official document in 2006?" he went on to question.
> "If the person using Calibri was such a font lover that he or she had to use the new Calibri, then he or she should be able to prove that other documents were printed with Calibri in 2006, and these prints should be in the hands of other people as well," he wrote.
> De Groot said in his opinion the document signed by Maryam Nawaz was "produced much later, when Calibri was the default font in MS Word".
So apparently yes it would be possible but highly unlikely.
- deltateam 8y agoHaving dealt with so many Pakistani web/graphic designers and photo retouchers back then, I don't think it is highly unlikely at all. There was such a competitive race to the bottom with graphic design work that I could have seen the Prime Minister's son, daughter or anyone in their network having had that font on their computer. At the time of this trial, I always had to laugh about the argument and wondered if I could present this reality as a third party to the trial, but then I saw that like every Pakistani Prime Minister is brought down this way and realized it has no bearing on my life whatsoever.
- arif_sohaib 8y agoI double Hamza Shahbaz or Mariam Nawaz even know how to use Word on a normal PC, let alone get and install beta software.
- deltateam 8y agoIts not my problem that the defense never brought it up. Shows a real lack of imagination. "Actually we used to moonlight on Craigslist and routinely searched for fonts in leaked beta software to differentiate ourselves" Now I'm being facetious. But there are a lot of probable ways a font was added, ESPECIALLY for people that aren't good with computers. A toolbar added by a hacker group could have stolen fonts in it.
- gpvos 8y agoThen, as Carter wrote, it must be easy to find documents by one of them also using Calibri.
- deltateam 8y agoshrugs Honestly I have never seen any drama from Pakistan that matched my expectations of due process. The rebuttals and speculation are mildly entertaining, and the finality of their court garners no respect from me either way. If the whole case hinged on the font actually existing in the wild in some capacity but the probability that it was on someone's computer at that point in time, yet some obvious to me possibilities were never even brought up, then all I can say is "lol, Pakistan."
- forapurpose 8y ago>> "Why would anyone use a completely unknown font for an official document in 2006?" De Groot lives in a rarified world where someone would consider this question. Most people never give a thought to which font they are using or whether it's appropriate. Maybe someone just typed the document on a handy computer, on which someone happened to have installed the beta OS. I'm sure he knows hinting and drop caps far better than I do, but he has no expertise about the likelihood of that happening.
- bm1362 8y agoI think his point is also that to even use the font on the beta OS you had to go out of your way.