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This is something I really hope Trump hits on. He's proven repeatedly he doesn't care what is popular, and was booed during the debates for saying that he woul

by axaxs 8y ago

This is something I really hope Trump hits on. He's proven repeatedly he doesn't care what is popular, and was booed during the debates for saying that he wouldn't let people die in the streets, as sick as that situation is. I like that about Trump, he sets popularity aside in his decisions. That said, this is my single biggest issue at the moment. I have great health insurance, probably better than 90 pct of people here. It's not about me, it's about a broken system. I, or any of us, could lose our coverage in the blink of an eye. I will fully support any candidate who runs on nationalised healthcare. I don't care if my taxes go up. Our country is gross that people are afraid to seek treatment, or even ride an ambulance, because of our broken system. And I say this as a fiscal conservative...

mc32 8y ago
It'd be great if he or anyone did. Unfortunately, I don't think it will be picked up by traditional politicians because doctors are active donors and they don't want to upset that. But, who knows. If it becomes a populist cause, maybe... maybe.
- axaxs 8y ago
  That's what I don't understand. The parties are at each others throats, even physically. I think the majority of both parties support reform and/or single payer. It seems like such an easy political win, even if not an easily solvable problem.
  - greywolf 8y ago
    that's soo disinformed. there's absolutely no sign republicans or even most of democrats will support single payer
- TangoTrotFox 8y ago
  Doctors aren't the schemers here. When a doctor submits a claim to your insurance for let's say $500 what he gets back is a magic and opaque number. His only choice is take it, or don't accept your insurance. For programs like medicaid this number is often a tiny fraction of what was charged, which is why some doctors or hospitals simply will not accept it. If you pay in cash at a doctor you'll often pay a much more reasonable price, and that's because they're not at the whims of insurance companies who incentivize them to charge as much as they possibly can.
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djsumdog 8y ago
I don't think Trump, Clinton or anyone can tackle this issue. Remember presidents don't really run the country. Their essential backers do. Presidents need to support their keys to power, the telecom companies, the oil companies, the big Tech companies, big pharma ... The only way this changes in our fucked up system is if one big supporter, say tech companies, have a reason to collectively force the politicians that support them to start an assault on the big health/pharma industries. But no company wants that. All industries benefit from the fucked up health insurance system because it means all American must have jobs. It's not an option because no one can afford to get sick or break and arm without one (with health insurance). I'd suggest reading The Dictator's Handbook. It goes into this pretty extensively. Trump/Hillary hate/loyalty we see in this country is really sad and misguided. It's attacking the runny nose and not the bacteria that's causing the infection. The people who run this country are not the Congress and Senators and President, but all the people who pay their wages: Microsoft, BASF, Boeing, Facebook, Timewarner, Exxon, Google, etc.

by axaxs 8y ago

mc32 8y ago

It'd be great if he or anyone did. Unfortunately, I don't think it will be picked up by traditional politicians because doctors are active donors and they don't want to upset that. But, who knows. If it becomes a populist cause, maybe... maybe.

axaxs 8y ago
That's what I don't understand. The parties are at each others throats, even physically. I think the majority of both parties support reform and/or single payer. It seems like such an easy political win, even if not an easily solvable problem.
- greywolf 8y ago
  that's soo disinformed. there's absolutely no sign republicans or even most of democrats will support single payer
TangoTrotFox 8y ago
Doctors aren't the schemers here. When a doctor submits a claim to your insurance for let's say $500 what he gets back is a magic and opaque number. His only choice is take it, or don't accept your insurance. For programs like medicaid this number is often a tiny fraction of what was charged, which is why some doctors or hospitals simply will not accept it. If you pay in cash at a doctor you'll often pay a much more reasonable price, and that's because they're not at the whims of insurance companies who incentivize them to charge as much as they possibly can.

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djsumdog 8y ago

I don't think Trump, Clinton or anyone can tackle this issue. Remember presidents don't really run the country. Their essential backers do. Presidents need to support their keys to power, the telecom companies, the oil companies, the big Tech companies, big pharma ... The only way this changes in our fucked up system is if one big supporter, say tech companies, have a reason to collectively force the politicians that support them to start an assault on the big health/pharma industries. But no company wants that. All industries benefit from the fucked up health insurance system because it means all American must have jobs. It's not an option because no one can afford to get sick or break and arm without one (with health insurance). I'd suggest reading The Dictator's Handbook. It goes into this pretty extensively. Trump/Hillary hate/loyalty we see in this country is really sad and misguided. It's attacking the runny nose and not the bacteria that's causing the infection. The people who run this country are not the Congress and Senators and President, but all the people who pay their wages: Microsoft, BASF, Boeing, Facebook, Timewarner, Exxon, Google, etc.