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VS Code June 2018

89 points by ronjouch 8y ago

raghavkhanna 8y ago
Just wanted to thank the VSCode team for this fantastic editor, recently discovered it and has become my daily driver. Keep up the excellent work!
- rollulus 8y ago
  I second that. Today I was using it, and I thought: Microsoft messed so many things up beyond recognition, but what a brilliant product did they make with vscode!
  - HashBasher 8y ago
    Plus, if t hey end up screwing it up very badly, we can just fork it and maintain a good version.
quaunaut 8y ago
For the last several months I've been in a perpetual state of switching back and forth between Atom and VS Code. So far, I find myself continually frustrated. Undoubtedly, Atom is slow to start up in a new folder. But in exchange for that initial speed, I get: * Universally better keybinds. From better split editor(even using the newest VS Code Insiders, which has new split editing binds/tools), to better Vim integration(having to spam j or k to go up/down lines), Atom keybinds(whether official or from the community) seem to just work intelligently. * Teletype in VS Code is just rough.(CAVEAT: I've not used Atom's, so it may be just as bad.) From it breaking many keybinds for as long as you have your experience shared(using vim `o` to newline and indent is genuinely a 50/50 as to whether it works, and there's a lot more where that came from), to difficulty for the sharer to track the people they've shared with, to the inbuilt console just failing to let one of my sharees to run my tests. * The number and usefulness of addons in the VS Code community seems to be just consistently a step below. ElixirLS[1] is official on VS Code, yet breaks fairly often- yet never does on Atom, despite it being merely a test! There's no alternative for Advanced Open File[2]. I understand this is an ecosystem problem and that I can contribute to fixing it, but with it being so frequent I often get frustrated. Furthermore, I really want to know the future of these two projects, plus atom/xray[3]. Because if Atom can get VSCode's speed, I don't see a point to Atom. Alternatively, if VSCode could just get better along the edges, that would similarly be a huge improvement. Both are so fantastic and so close to my ideal(at this point, I have more language issues than editor issues), so both being under the same roof I don't see as inherently negative- but investing in either also seems foolhardy. ------------------ 1. https://github.com/JakeBecker/elixir-ls https://github.com/JakeBecker/elixir-ls 2. https://atom.io/packages/advanced-open-file https://atom.io/packages/advanced-open-file 3. https://github.com/atom/xray https://github.com/atom/xray
- symlinkk 8y ago
  To answer your first complaint, Atom keybinds are available for VSCode: https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode-atom-keybindings https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode-atom-keybindings
- jamesgeck0 8y ago
  > to better Vim integration(having to spam j or k to go up/down lines) What movement command are you trying to use that isn't working? All the basic up/down movement commands should be supported. https://github.com/VSCodeVim/Vim/blob/master/ROADMAP.md https://github.com/VSCodeVim/Vim/blob/master/ROADMAP.md
  - softwaregirl 8y ago
    I think he means that you have to spam j/k instead of just holding it down. ie. if you hold j you expect the cursor to keep moving up, with vs code it will just move up a single line.
    - chillee 8y ago
      That shouldn't be an issue. Check the README. This is a common issue people run into on Macs.
cygned 8y ago
The grid editor layout is a major improvement I have been waiting for! Can’t wait any longer to try it out.
dylrich 8y ago
Portable mode is huge for those of us who have worked in places with unnecessarily restrictive IT departments :)
- abhinavk 8y ago
  With this release, it is also possible to install it without admin privileges.
corbin 8y ago
Hope it gets multiple monitor support soon, keep expecting it after using visual studio.
- dingo_bat 8y ago
  What would that entail?
  - oblio 8y ago
    Probably changes to Electron, I don't think it has multi-monitor support.
    - dingo_bat 8y ago
      No, I mean what does it mean for an app to have multi-monitor support? Isn't that usually a domain for the window manager. The app can be dragged from one monitor to another.
      - oblio 8y ago
        IDEs especially have a lot of panels. Those can be moved around in the window or even outside of the window. So you can have the code window, the debug window, etc. So what people actually want is multi-window support.
2trill2spill 8y ago
I currently use VS Code when developing on MacOS and Windows but it would be awesome if VS Code worked out of the box for FreeBSD my preferred development machine. Unfortunately the electron team doesn't really seem to care about FreeBSD, even though a bunch of FreeBSD devs are willing to do most of the work, and there's a $750 dollarsource bounty[1]. But maybe the VS Code team could help encourage the electron team to be more receptive of other platforms. [1]: https://github.com/electron/electron/issues/3797 https://github.com/electron/electron/issues/3797
- dingo_bat 8y ago
  > bunch of FreeBSD devs are willing to do most of the work I mean the whole thing is on github. I'm sure electron will be happy to merge a pr.
  - 2trill2spill 8y ago
    They wont merge the pr unless FreeBSD is added to their CI infrastructure so it's properly supported. But the electron team doesn't want to do the work of adding FreeBSD to their CI. It puts FreeBSD in a catch 22 because either the electron team needs to allow access to the CI infrastructure to a few FreeBSD devs so they can do the work or the Electron team needs to do the work.
piotrkubisa 8y ago
> Outline view Thanks VSCode team for bringing this feature to the editor. I can't even mention how long I waited to see it in the next version of the Sublime Text (I still have hope) and the VSCode. BTW why outline in IDEs is always in the different panel? Sometimes I feel like I would like to have an "org-mode" or a "workflowy" feel. I mean all references to classes, method, functions etc. displayed below the file in the sidebar. Then if I have errors or warning in hello() function I will be able to quickly find where I have a problem in my code - I need to only look on file list and I will see 2E bagde near src/main.c file and 1E at hello() and foo() functions. No need to lookup the 'Problems' panel anymore for quick fixes. And for markdown files it will be just like a table of contents.
- jazoom 8y ago
  When I saw it this morning I instantly loved it. But for some reason if I select the option for it to follow the cursor whenever I click on an item in the list it scrolls the list back to where the cursor is in the document. It's a super obvious bug so it's possibly already fixed. And they've probably added 3 features for the next release while they're at it. Amazing development speed.
kup0 8y ago
Though I love Sublime's cold open speed, VS Code is my second favorite editor on Mac, and I appreciate how they've continued to make significant updates and improvements over time. My use cases are simple, so I am not the best person to give a thorough review of its deep IDE-level features. But overall, I have really enjoyed using it and IMHO it's one of the best examples of an electron app out today. MS has done some great performance tuning to make it not feel so much like an electron app. I have a love/hate relationship with MS as I'm sure many do, but this is some of their work that really shines.
dingo_bat 8y ago
That changelist is fucking huge! It took me a proper 20 minutes to just read through each new feature.
candiodari 8y ago
I wish they'd make something like liveshare and make it more universally accessible, so I could use vscode on my laptop but have the editing/changes happen on another/desktop machines.
kbumsik 8y ago
I can't believe they can add this huge feature set every month!

VS Code June 2018

89 points by ronjouch 8y ago

Just wanted to thank the VSCode team for this fantastic editor, recently discovered it and has become my daily driver. Keep up the excellent work!

rollulus 8y ago
I second that. Today I was using it, and I thought: Microsoft messed so many things up beyond recognition, but what a brilliant product did they make with vscode!
- HashBasher 8y ago
  Plus, if t hey end up screwing it up very badly, we can just fork it and maintain a good version.

quaunaut 8y ago

For the last several months I've been in a perpetual state of switching back and forth between Atom and VS Code. So far, I find myself continually frustrated. Undoubtedly, Atom is slow to start up in a new folder. But in exchange for that initial speed, I get: * Universally better keybinds. From better split editor(even using the newest VS Code Insiders, which has new split editing binds/tools), to better Vim integration(having to spam j or k to go up/down lines), Atom keybinds(whether official or from the community) seem to just work intelligently. * Teletype in VS Code is just rough.(CAVEAT: I've not used Atom's, so it may be just as bad.) From it breaking many keybinds for as long as you have your experience shared(using vim `o` to newline and indent is genuinely a 50/50 as to whether it works, and there's a lot more where that came from), to difficulty for the sharer to track the people they've shared with, to the inbuilt console just failing to let one of my sharees to run my tests. * The number and usefulness of addons in the VS Code community seems to be just consistently a step below. ElixirLS[1] is official on VS Code, yet breaks fairly often- yet never does on Atom, despite it being merely a test! There's no alternative for Advanced Open File[2]. I understand this is an ecosystem problem and that I can contribute to fixing it, but with it being so frequent I often get frustrated. Furthermore, I really want to know the future of these two projects, plus atom/xray[3]. Because if Atom can get VSCode's speed, I don't see a point to Atom. Alternatively, if VSCode could just get better along the edges, that would similarly be a huge improvement. Both are so fantastic and so close to my ideal(at this point, I have more language issues than editor issues), so both being under the same roof I don't see as inherently negative- but investing in either also seems foolhardy. ------------------ 1. https://github.com/JakeBecker/elixir-ls https://github.com/JakeBecker/elixir-ls 2. https://atom.io/packages/advanced-open-file https://atom.io/packages/advanced-open-file 3. https://github.com/atom/xray https://github.com/atom/xray

symlinkk 8y ago
To answer your first complaint, Atom keybinds are available for VSCode: https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode-atom-keybindings https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode-atom-keybindings
jamesgeck0 8y ago
> to better Vim integration(having to spam j or k to go up/down lines) What movement command are you trying to use that isn't working? All the basic up/down movement commands should be supported. https://github.com/VSCodeVim/Vim/blob/master/ROADMAP.md https://github.com/VSCodeVim/Vim/blob/master/ROADMAP.md
- softwaregirl 8y ago
  I think he means that you have to spam j/k instead of just holding it down. ie. if you hold j you expect the cursor to keep moving up, with vs code it will just move up a single line.
  - chillee 8y ago
    That shouldn't be an issue. Check the README. This is a common issue people run into on Macs.

cygned 8y ago

The grid editor layout is a major improvement I have been waiting for! Can’t wait any longer to try it out.

dylrich 8y ago

Portable mode is huge for those of us who have worked in places with unnecessarily restrictive IT departments :)

abhinavk 8y ago
With this release, it is also possible to install it without admin privileges.

corbin 8y ago

Hope it gets multiple monitor support soon, keep expecting it after using visual studio.

dingo_bat 8y ago
What would that entail?
- oblio 8y ago
  Probably changes to Electron, I don't think it has multi-monitor support.
  - dingo_bat 8y ago
    No, I mean what does it mean for an app to have multi-monitor support? Isn't that usually a domain for the window manager. The app can be dragged from one monitor to another.
    - oblio 8y ago
      IDEs especially have a lot of panels. Those can be moved around in the window or even outside of the window. So you can have the code window, the debug window, etc. So what people actually want is multi-window support.

2trill2spill 8y ago

I currently use VS Code when developing on MacOS and Windows but it would be awesome if VS Code worked out of the box for FreeBSD my preferred development machine. Unfortunately the electron team doesn't really seem to care about FreeBSD, even though a bunch of FreeBSD devs are willing to do most of the work, and there's a $750 dollarsource bounty[1]. But maybe the VS Code team could help encourage the electron team to be more receptive of other platforms. [1]: https://github.com/electron/electron/issues/3797 https://github.com/electron/electron/issues/3797

dingo_bat 8y ago
> bunch of FreeBSD devs are willing to do most of the work I mean the whole thing is on github. I'm sure electron will be happy to merge a pr.
- 2trill2spill 8y ago
  They wont merge the pr unless FreeBSD is added to their CI infrastructure so it's properly supported. But the electron team doesn't want to do the work of adding FreeBSD to their CI. It puts FreeBSD in a catch 22 because either the electron team needs to allow access to the CI infrastructure to a few FreeBSD devs so they can do the work or the Electron team needs to do the work.

piotrkubisa 8y ago

> Outline view Thanks VSCode team for bringing this feature to the editor. I can't even mention how long I waited to see it in the next version of the Sublime Text (I still have hope) and the VSCode. BTW why outline in IDEs is always in the different panel? Sometimes I feel like I would like to have an "org-mode" or a "workflowy" feel. I mean all references to classes, method, functions etc. displayed below the file in the sidebar. Then if I have errors or warning in hello() function I will be able to quickly find where I have a problem in my code - I need to only look on file list and I will see 2E bagde near src/main.c file and 1E at hello() and foo() functions. No need to lookup the 'Problems' panel anymore for quick fixes. And for markdown files it will be just like a table of contents.

jazoom 8y ago
When I saw it this morning I instantly loved it. But for some reason if I select the option for it to follow the cursor whenever I click on an item in the list it scrolls the list back to where the cursor is in the document. It's a super obvious bug so it's possibly already fixed. And they've probably added 3 features for the next release while they're at it. Amazing development speed.

kup0 8y ago

Though I love Sublime's cold open speed, VS Code is my second favorite editor on Mac, and I appreciate how they've continued to make significant updates and improvements over time. My use cases are simple, so I am not the best person to give a thorough review of its deep IDE-level features. But overall, I have really enjoyed using it and IMHO it's one of the best examples of an electron app out today. MS has done some great performance tuning to make it not feel so much like an electron app. I have a love/hate relationship with MS as I'm sure many do, but this is some of their work that really shines.

dingo_bat 8y ago

That changelist is fucking huge! It took me a proper 20 minutes to just read through each new feature.

candiodari 8y ago

I wish they'd make something like liveshare and make it more universally accessible, so I could use vscode on my laptop but have the editing/changes happen on another/desktop machines.

kbumsik 8y ago

I can't believe they can add this huge feature set every month!