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I doubt it's about profit. The internet is the only mass medium not being completely controlled by corporations. It's the only medium where truth can still be

I doubt it's about profit. The internet is the only mass medium not being completely controlled by corporations. It's the only medium where truth can still be found about the real reasons why things occur. Link tax and other new laws will make sure that networks that spread truths goes underground.

nerdponx 8y ago
Sounds like that's about profit to me.
- pabloski 8y ago
  Profits and censorship. The oligarchs want money and want to shut the mouths of those who denounce their crimes. And yes, it isn't only Russia who has a problem with oligarchs.
simias 8y ago
Sounds like tinfoil hattery to me. Simple greed and technological illiteracy seem much more straightforward and don't involve a conspiracy about "the real reasons why things occur" [creepy music in the background]. It's especially ridiculous since of late the internet seems to have been much more efficient at shoveling garbage to gullible people than enlightening the proletariat. I've even seen some proponents of the bill lament that the lobbying by the "GAFA" (google, apple, facebook and amazon) won, so I'm sure some of them actually believe that they're fighting the good fight against the multinational behemoths who are trying to pillage European resources. It's relatively easy to justify the bill if you take it purely at face value without thinking about the consequences: the big players like Google make a ton of money by linking to other people's work without redistributing any of the profits to the creators, let's fix that. Of course, the road to hell is paved with good intentions and clueless politicians. That or it's the Illuminati, who knows.
- andai 8y ago
  Clueless politicians are not magically immune from the illuminati's influence, rather they are prime targets.
krapp 8y ago
>It's the only medium where truth can still be found about the real reasons why things occur. So.. flat earth, anti-vax, 9/11 truther, NWO, aliens or... what? What's your poison?
- TuringTest 8y ago
  You're looking at all the wrong places
everyone 8y ago
Nonsense. Its mainly cat pictures and porn. If you're interested in learning how things work, read a lot of books. (non-fiction obviously) The truth about the fuckedupedness of our civilization is all readily available for you to read. Just no-one cares.
- AstralStorm 8y ago
  Did you mean ebooks and blogs by books? IEEE and other research papers in electronic form? I haven't found a book even close to state of the art... For a reasonable price. Springer research collections come close but they're very expensive. Journals are expensive and worse...
- turc1656 8y ago
  Precisely! 66% of Millennials don't know what Auschwitz is and 40% don't know that 6 million Jews died in the Holocaust based on a recent study. This is astounding. Even more insane is that the overwhelming majority of society (not just Millennials) thinks that the Holocaust was the most deadly mass murder in the 20th century.
  - mlthoughts2018 8y ago
    The Holocaust is the largest genocide of the 20th century. Only the Chinese Great Leap Forward could be comparable in overall deaths, many of which resulted from famine and policy in a way that makes it very hard to compare with genocidal murder. Overall, I’d say it’s quite reasonable if most people register the Holocaust as the largest event of “mass murder.” < https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides_by_death_toll https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides_by_death_t... >
    - turc1656 8y ago
      Yes, but my phrasing was specifically mass murder. In terms of genocide, I agree. But that list explicitly excludes non-genocide mass murders. In terms of the Chinese Great Leap Forward, if you exclude the policy/famine based deaths that still leaves you with at least 13 million murders, and that's just the property owners that were slaughtered for their land by the impoverished peasants. That doesn't even include anyone else.

nerdponx 8y ago

Sounds like that's about profit to me.

pabloski 8y ago
Profits and censorship. The oligarchs want money and want to shut the mouths of those who denounce their crimes. And yes, it isn't only Russia who has a problem with oligarchs.

simias 8y ago

Sounds like tinfoil hattery to me. Simple greed and technological illiteracy seem much more straightforward and don't involve a conspiracy about "the real reasons why things occur" [creepy music in the background]. It's especially ridiculous since of late the internet seems to have been much more efficient at shoveling garbage to gullible people than enlightening the proletariat. I've even seen some proponents of the bill lament that the lobbying by the "GAFA" (google, apple, facebook and amazon) won, so I'm sure some of them actually believe that they're fighting the good fight against the multinational behemoths who are trying to pillage European resources. It's relatively easy to justify the bill if you take it purely at face value without thinking about the consequences: the big players like Google make a ton of money by linking to other people's work without redistributing any of the profits to the creators, let's fix that. Of course, the road to hell is paved with good intentions and clueless politicians. That or it's the Illuminati, who knows.

andai 8y ago
Clueless politicians are not magically immune from the illuminati's influence, rather they are prime targets.

krapp 8y ago

>It's the only medium where truth can still be found about the real reasons why things occur. So.. flat earth, anti-vax, 9/11 truther, NWO, aliens or... what? What's your poison?

TuringTest 8y ago
You're looking at all the wrong places

everyone 8y ago

Nonsense. Its mainly cat pictures and porn. If you're interested in learning how things work, read a lot of books. (non-fiction obviously) The truth about the fuckedupedness of our civilization is all readily available for you to read. Just no-one cares.

AstralStorm 8y ago
Did you mean ebooks and blogs by books? IEEE and other research papers in electronic form? I haven't found a book even close to state of the art... For a reasonable price. Springer research collections come close but they're very expensive. Journals are expensive and worse...
turc1656 8y ago
Precisely! 66% of Millennials don't know what Auschwitz is and 40% don't know that 6 million Jews died in the Holocaust based on a recent study. This is astounding. Even more insane is that the overwhelming majority of society (not just Millennials) thinks that the Holocaust was the most deadly mass murder in the 20th century.
- mlthoughts2018 8y ago
  The Holocaust is the largest genocide of the 20th century. Only the Chinese Great Leap Forward could be comparable in overall deaths, many of which resulted from famine and policy in a way that makes it very hard to compare with genocidal murder. Overall, I’d say it’s quite reasonable if most people register the Holocaust as the largest event of “mass murder.” < https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides_by_death_toll https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides_by_death_t... >
  - turc1656 8y ago
    Yes, but my phrasing was specifically mass murder. In terms of genocide, I agree. But that list explicitly excludes non-genocide mass murders. In terms of the Chinese Great Leap Forward, if you exclude the policy/famine based deaths that still leaves you with at least 13 million murders, and that's just the property owners that were slaughtered for their land by the impoverished peasants. That doesn't even include anyone else.