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Euthanasia for dependent adults is legal now?

kaybe 8y ago
You are required to help people in need, but not at the expense of your own safety. Calling 112 is enough. Abortion is not about killing, it's about not having a being in your body, potentially wrecking it and killing you. In the same vein, you can stop supporting dependent adults, as an individual (doing that as a society is a different matter). You can just stop. It won't kill them in that case, but that is not what this is about. If pregnancy was nothing for your body, no stress at all, then carrying to term and giving it up for adoption would be a lot more common. This dimension is often overlooked by people, especially men, I feel. Pregnancy can be insanely hard and dangerous.
- yostrovs 8y ago
  Seems like your view of fetuses is that of parasites, not even subhuman as slaveowners had of their slaves. It's an odd, counterproductive defense of abortion.
  - kaybe 8y ago
    What would a productive defense be?
    - yostrovs 8y ago
      I'm not in the business of defending abortion, actually very much agnostic on this topic and don't think it should receive the attention that it does. But man-oh-man, calling fetuses parasites is simply wrong and makes one look heartless. Parasites are of a different species, invade rather than being seeded by the host, and create misery for the host. Fetuses, on the other hand, are usually awaited with excitement, welcomed by the family, and bring joy and happiness to parents. To call them parasites really is Orwellian. The only thing they have in common with parasites is that they live inside another's body. Even our gut bacteria is not parasitic.
      - yostrovs 8y ago
        By the way, HN being one of the most censorious platforms, my post is no longer visible on the topic's discussion page. Think about that.
        kaybe 8y ago
        I did and it might not just be your view but also that you seem to answer not to what was argued, but something else in the broader vicinity of the topic. I will not go into details since that makes for boring reading for everyone else, but that's what I thought about. Sorry for being so blunt, but then I thought you might want to know.

You are required to help people in need, but not at the expense of your own safety. Calling 112 is enough. Abortion is not about killing, it's about not having a being in your body, potentially wrecking it and killing you. In the same vein, you can stop supporting dependent adults, as an individual (doing that as a society is a different matter). You can just stop. It won't kill them in that case, but that is not what this is about. If pregnancy was nothing for your body, no stress at all, then carrying to term and giving it up for adoption would be a lot more common. This dimension is often overlooked by people, especially men, I feel. Pregnancy can be insanely hard and dangerous.

yostrovs 8y ago
Seems like your view of fetuses is that of parasites, not even subhuman as slaveowners had of their slaves. It's an odd, counterproductive defense of abortion.
- kaybe 8y ago
  What would a productive defense be?
  - yostrovs 8y ago
    I'm not in the business of defending abortion, actually very much agnostic on this topic and don't think it should receive the attention that it does. But man-oh-man, calling fetuses parasites is simply wrong and makes one look heartless. Parasites are of a different species, invade rather than being seeded by the host, and create misery for the host. Fetuses, on the other hand, are usually awaited with excitement, welcomed by the family, and bring joy and happiness to parents. To call them parasites really is Orwellian. The only thing they have in common with parasites is that they live inside another's body. Even our gut bacteria is not parasitic.
    - yostrovs 8y ago
      By the way, HN being one of the most censorious platforms, my post is no longer visible on the topic's discussion page. Think about that.
      - kaybe 8y ago
        I did and it might not just be your view but also that you seem to answer not to what was argued, but something else in the broader vicinity of the topic. I will not go into details since that makes for boring reading for everyone else, but that's what I thought about. Sorry for being so blunt, but then I thought you might want to know.