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When a fetus does not need somebody to spend their time and pain hosting them and risk their health and life doing it, then we can talk about this. Even if it
by kaybe 8y ago
When a fetus does not need somebody to spend their time and pain hosting them and risk their health and life doing it, then we can talk about this.
Even if it was not a fetus but an adult with a fully formed conciousness and personality, this would be a hard demand to make, and our laws reflect that.
- barking 8y agoEuthanasia for dependent adults is legal now?
- kaybe 8y agoYou are required to help people in need, but not at the expense of your own safety. Calling 112 is enough. Abortion is not about killing, it's about not having a being in your body, potentially wrecking it and killing you. In the same vein, you can stop supporting dependent adults, as an individual (doing that as a society is a different matter). You can just stop. It won't kill them in that case, but that is not what this is about. If pregnancy was nothing for your body, no stress at all, then carrying to term and giving it up for adoption would be a lot more common. This dimension is often overlooked by people, especially men, I feel. Pregnancy can be insanely hard and dangerous.
- yostrovs 8y agoSeems like your view of fetuses is that of parasites, not even subhuman as slaveowners had of their slaves. It's an odd, counterproductive defense of abortion.
- kaybe 8y agoWhat would a productive defense be?
- yostrovs 8y agoI'm not in the business of defending abortion, actually very much agnostic on this topic and don't think it should receive the attention that it does. But man-oh-man, calling fetuses parasites is simply wrong and makes one look heartless. Parasites are of a different species, invade rather than being seeded by the host, and create misery for the host. Fetuses, on the other hand, are usually awaited with excitement, welcomed by the family, and bring joy and happiness to parents. To call them parasites really is Orwellian. The only thing they have in common with parasites is that they live inside another's body. Even our gut bacteria is not parasitic.
- yostrovs 8y agoBy the way, HN being one of the most censorious platforms, my post is no longer visible on the topic's discussion page. Think about that.
- kaybe 8y agoI did and it might not just be your view but also that you seem to answer not to what was argued, but something else in the broader vicinity of the topic. I will not go into details since that makes for boring reading for everyone else, but that's what I thought about. Sorry for being so blunt, but then I thought you might want to know.