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It would be amazing if they rewrote wordpress in C# using modern design patterns.

dan1234 8y ago
One of the major selling points of WordPress is its huge array of 3rd party plugins. You'd need to port the most popular ones before the C# version got any traction. How's Linux for .NET hosting? Because Linux hosts are generally cheaper than Windows hosts.
- magnat 8y ago
  > How's Linux for .NET hosting? For .NET Core there are binary packages [1] for Debian/Ubuntu, Fedora, Red Hat and SUSE, so you can apt-get/rpm/yum hosting environment in a matter of minutes. I'd say it's easier to set up and run ASP.NET Core app with Apache or nginx as reverse proxy than with IIS. For "old" .NET you are stuck with Mono [2] which works okay-ish if you don't use Windows-only dependencies. [1] https://www.microsoft.com/net/download/linux-package-manager/rhel/runtime-current https://www.microsoft.com/net/download/linux-package-manager... [2] https://www.mono-project.com/ https://www.mono-project.com/
- squirrelicus 8y ago
  I've been having great luck with ASP.NET core / nginx. Very stable, low overhead with 40k req/sec served in a ubuntu VM. I hate MVC, so I've been using Nancy (Sinatra based) as the web framework. I'm highly confident in .NET Core being production ready.
custos 8y ago
Decompile the resulting library and start refactoring and adding comments?
- nicoburns 8y ago
  Why would you start with a decompiled binary when the source code is available?
  - gaius 8y ago
    Because then you don’t need to look at the source code
  - kxkckic 8y ago
    Because he is trying to sound like he has a clue, lol.
    - voltagex_ 8y ago
      Don't be like that. https://www.peachpie.io/ https://www.peachpie.io/ - the live demo shows that it compiles to IL which yes, could be decompiled as a starting point of you wanted to extend it in C# (or VB.NET) instead of working in PHP.
stephenr 8y ago
You could take “C#” out of that sentence and still be accurate. Wordpress is not and I imagine never will be anywhere close to “modern design patterns”. It’s not even close to old design patterns, unless Heinz has a namesake software design pattern. Wordpress uses practices that were considered a bad idea a decade or more ago, and still refuses to change.
- radium3d 8y ago
  Do you have any examples of the bad practices you are referring to?
  - sebazzz 8y ago
    Probably the use of globals etc. This might also be a backwards compatibility thing though.
    - akerro 8y ago
      Developing anything for wordpress is a nightmare, it's not only PHP-nightmare, but also plenty of bad practices, poor API, wired workarounds...
  - stephenr 8y ago
    They actively refuse to use parameterised sql queries, opting for their own home baked userland implementation instead.
  - iamjaredwalters 8y ago
    Examples include: use of globals, inefficient queries, mixed templating, lack of namespacing, doesn't follow PSR standards.
- firefoxd 8y ago
  "refuse to change"? It's not easy to change something used by more than 50% of the internet.
- jeremiep 8y ago
maxxxxx 8y ago
The first step should to be to rewrite in PHP 7 using modern design patterns. I don't think C# would add much there.
ognarb 8y ago
The avantage of php for a self hosted bloging website is that php is installed in almost every hosted server and that makes WordPress easy to install.

One of the major selling points of WordPress is its huge array of 3rd party plugins. You'd need to port the most popular ones before the C# version got any traction. How's Linux for .NET hosting? Because Linux hosts are generally cheaper than Windows hosts.

magnat 8y ago
> How's Linux for .NET hosting? For .NET Core there are binary packages [1] for Debian/Ubuntu, Fedora, Red Hat and SUSE, so you can apt-get/rpm/yum hosting environment in a matter of minutes. I'd say it's easier to set up and run ASP.NET Core app with Apache or nginx as reverse proxy than with IIS. For "old" .NET you are stuck with Mono [2] which works okay-ish if you don't use Windows-only dependencies. [1] https://www.microsoft.com/net/download/linux-package-manager/rhel/runtime-current https://www.microsoft.com/net/download/linux-package-manager... [2] https://www.mono-project.com/ https://www.mono-project.com/
squirrelicus 8y ago
I've been having great luck with ASP.NET core / nginx. Very stable, low overhead with 40k req/sec served in a ubuntu VM. I hate MVC, so I've been using Nancy (Sinatra based) as the web framework. I'm highly confident in .NET Core being production ready.

custos 8y ago

Decompile the resulting library and start refactoring and adding comments?

nicoburns 8y ago
Why would you start with a decompiled binary when the source code is available?
- gaius 8y ago
  Because then you don’t need to look at the source code
- kxkckic 8y ago
  Because he is trying to sound like he has a clue, lol.
  - voltagex_ 8y ago
    Don't be like that. https://www.peachpie.io/ https://www.peachpie.io/ - the live demo shows that it compiles to IL which yes, could be decompiled as a starting point of you wanted to extend it in C# (or VB.NET) instead of working in PHP.

stephenr 8y ago

You could take “C#” out of that sentence and still be accurate. Wordpress is not and I imagine never will be anywhere close to “modern design patterns”. It’s not even close to old design patterns, unless Heinz has a namesake software design pattern. Wordpress uses practices that were considered a bad idea a decade or more ago, and still refuses to change.

radium3d 8y ago
Do you have any examples of the bad practices you are referring to?
- sebazzz 8y ago
  Probably the use of globals etc. This might also be a backwards compatibility thing though.
  - akerro 8y ago
    Developing anything for wordpress is a nightmare, it's not only PHP-nightmare, but also plenty of bad practices, poor API, wired workarounds...
- stephenr 8y ago
  They actively refuse to use parameterised sql queries, opting for their own home baked userland implementation instead.
- iamjaredwalters 8y ago
  Examples include: use of globals, inefficient queries, mixed templating, lack of namespacing, doesn't follow PSR standards.
firefoxd 8y ago
"refuse to change"? It's not easy to change something used by more than 50% of the internet.
jeremiep 8y ago

maxxxxx 8y ago

The first step should to be to rewrite in PHP 7 using modern design patterns. I don't think C# would add much there.

ognarb 8y ago

The avantage of php for a self hosted bloging website is that php is installed in almost every hosted server and that makes WordPress easy to install.