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Setting aside the author's clear but oblivious bias in the English speakers "war", he documents a fascinating problem: how do we globally integrate societies th
by mabbo 8y ago
Setting aside the author's clear but oblivious bias in the English speakers "war", he documents a fascinating problem: how do we globally integrate societies that have very starkly different reactions to specific topics, ideas, etc? We aren't even good at answering these questions within the same culture (liberty vs discrimination, public safety vs 2nd amendment, 'Red' vs 'Blue', and so on).
Given the internet's existence, the lowering barriers to trade, immigration, and travel, Pandora's box isn't going to be closed here- we need to figure out how to approach the topic of cross-cultural disagreement on moral quandaries. And it's not fair to just say "Our culture is right and theirs is wrong". That just demeans them and silences the minority.
My favorite example: I go to a small men's barber shop usually staffed by two or three male barbers. A woman enters saying "I want a man's haircut". All three barbers are devout Muslims who cannot touch a woman, by their religious beliefs. Yet the customer has a right to be served even though she is female. This isn't hypothetical, it really happened. They sorted it out amicably, but this sure could have gone to court- where a decision would probably be made that makes a lot of people angry.
In the case of "ロリコン and 児童ポルノ", can Western culture even perceive that a difference might exist? Or are we bound by laws that grew out of our cultural view that the two are both the same horrible concept?
- Forge36 8y agoI think the line is sightly fussier in the United States. https://www.justice.gov/criminal-ceos/citizens-guide-us-federal-law-child-pornography https://www.justice.gov/criminal-ceos/citizens-guide-us-fede... >Visual depictions include photographs, videos, digital or computer generated images indistinguishable from an actual minor, and images created, adapted, or modified, but appear to depict an identifiable, actual minor I am not a lawyer, but given that language it gives the impression that even art may fall under the scope of U.S. law. Am I correct? Possibly not, however that ambiguity will cause many to avoid crossing the implied law to ensure they don't break the actual law.
- throwaway37585 8y agoIANAL, does the term “actual minor” here refer to depicting a specific real-world person, or to “realism”?
- vertexFarm 8y ago"...depict an identifiable, actual minor." So this doesn't apply to cartoons of the fictional character Mitsuki, a tiny blue-haired girl in a school uniform who is totally 21 years old and not 9 according to the dating simulator's lore. So this would probably be legal in the US. See, this guy isn't even right about that. He lies about the idea that it's totally non-controversial and accepted as ethical in Japanese culture, and he lies that it's universally illegal in western culture. This whole thing is a big pile of straw men invented by an otaku who thinks he's an ambassador of an entire culture for some reason.
- erik_seaberg 8y agoMeanwhile video indistinguishable from decapitation does big numbers on HBO, complete with behind-the-scenes closeups.