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Instead, today, we got 3 times more flights, with lumbering planes that refuse to climb to their altitude to save fuel (and get the pilot a bonus) and instead o

Instead, today, we got 3 times more flights, with lumbering planes that refuse to climb to their altitude to save fuel (and get the pilot a bonus) and instead of having ONE concorde a day and having to deal with it, there's a plane every 20 seconds. That all of these planes freeride everyone without 30 miles with their noise pollution. And all of it mostly for people who could use skype, like I do. PS: I live 15 miles from heathrow, I use to gently swear once daily about the concorde, now I swear every time I step out of the house.

x3n0ph3n3 8y ago
Your math doesn't make any sense. How is a single Concorde flight supposed to replace a day of other planes arriving every 20 seconds?
- ant6n 8y ago
  I guess the poster is proposing mobility only for the super rich?
isostatic 8y ago
There are 7 departures to JFK alone from Heathrow between 8AM and noon today. I think there's about 20 flights a day overall. Had Concorde been in place, to remove just 1 of those flights would require at least 3 concorde flights in that time period.
isostatic 8y ago
The total amount paid by a typical BA 747 from London to New York, with point-to-point passengers, is £32,214 -- government tax £13,428.09 -- Airport charges I believe the actual number of passengers originating in the UK and thus paying APD is about 70% of the flight, so thats about £22k in tax (APD). Airport charges remain the same (roughly, but in any case I think they go to Heathrow ltd) What value would you put on the externality of aircraft noise? Can't be that high -- houses under the heathrow flight path are far more valuable than the house I live in. [0] is literally under the flight path, half a mile from the end of the runway. [1] is far south of the airport and not going to have any planes overhead. I used to live a similar direction from Manchester airport, but far closer, and heard maybe 1 plane a month if it overshot the runway and had to go around and happened to go over me. [0] https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-71532077.html https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-71532... [1] https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-72601769.html https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-72601...

x3n0ph3n3 8y ago

Your math doesn't make any sense. How is a single Concorde flight supposed to replace a day of other planes arriving every 20 seconds?

ant6n 8y ago
I guess the poster is proposing mobility only for the super rich?

isostatic 8y ago

There are 7 departures to JFK alone from Heathrow between 8AM and noon today. I think there's about 20 flights a day overall. Had Concorde been in place, to remove just 1 of those flights would require at least 3 concorde flights in that time period.

isostatic 8y ago

The total amount paid by a typical BA 747 from London to New York, with point-to-point passengers, is £32,214 -- government tax £13,428.09 -- Airport charges I believe the actual number of passengers originating in the UK and thus paying APD is about 70% of the flight, so thats about £22k in tax (APD). Airport charges remain the same (roughly, but in any case I think they go to Heathrow ltd) What value would you put on the externality of aircraft noise? Can't be that high -- houses under the heathrow flight path are far more valuable than the house I live in. [0] is literally under the flight path, half a mile from the end of the runway. [1] is far south of the airport and not going to have any planes overhead. I used to live a similar direction from Manchester airport, but far closer, and heard maybe 1 plane a month if it overshot the runway and had to go around and happened to go over me. [0] https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-71532077.html https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-71532... [1] https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-72601769.html https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-72601...