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I would not trust any person who cheated on their spouse either. Nor would I want to hang out with colleagues at a strip club if we were not friends outside of
by 2muchcoffeeman 8y ago
I would not trust any person who cheated on their spouse either.
Nor would I want to hang out with colleagues at a strip club if we were not friends outside of work.
I don’t think this is some gender thing. Maybe be men are more likely to be coerced into doing these things. But I think they’re having fun.
- tarsinge 8y agoCompletely agree on this. Cheating on someone (be it a spouse or a business partner) is the definition of being untrustworthy. To be clear, obviously I don’t mind how and with who people are spending their nights, as long as they are not deceiving someone. It’s a shame that open relationships are not more accepted, but that’s not an excuse because nobody forced a cheating person to take an engagement in the first time.
- Consultant32452 8y ago>I would not trust any person who cheated on their spouse either. I would be careful about that, because that group includes the likes of Martin Luther King, Jr., Stephen Hawking, Einstein, etc. Don't get me wrong, I'm inclined to feel the same way, and have ended personal relationships when I found out someone had cheated on their spouse, but some of history's greatest figures cheated on their spouse.
- cm2012 8y agoTrustworthy =/ World changing. People can have a net positive on the world and still regularly backstab acquaintances. See Steve Jobs.
- Consultant32452 8y agoI think, generally speaking, there are very few people who would consider Martin Luther King Jr., George Washington, etc. as "untrustworthy." Some historians suggest that "Honest Abe Lincoln" cheated on his wife with two men. What could trustworthy mean if historical archetypes of honesty and great morality are not considered trustworthy?
- refoundglory 8y agoIt means you can trust them to do things like not lie to you. What do you want it to mean?
- bmarkovic 8y ago> What could trustworthy mean if historical archetypes of honesty and great morality are not considered trustworthy? What do the two concepts have in common at all? Trustworthy means he will not screw me over if, say, I were to borrow him money. That simply has nothing to do with "who the person" is but only with "what he is like in his personal relationships". Business relationships are very personal and greatly dependent on one's personality. In fact, the "greater" the person (in those historical, societal senses of the word) I'd actually be biased to trust them less even without any knowledge of their otherwise untrustiness.
- steve19 8y agoIt doesn't mean they are bad people. Everyone makes mistakes. You can do business with someone you can't trust, just don't put yourself in a position where your life/business/career/happiness depends on them behaving.
- vostok 8y agoIt doesn't necessarily mean that they're bad people, but it's certainly a good indication that they're bad people at least on a personal level. Of course this is assuming that they operated in an environment with the same ethics as my own.
- merinowool 8y agoMen are not wired for monogamy. It is like saying you might be bad person because you breathe. In a relationship this is a mutual effort to resist those needs, but failing to do so doesn't make you bad.
- bpizzi 8y agoActually, cheating involves lying. A spouse is explicitly or at least implicitly expecting the other part no to lie about extra relations. If lying about those extra relations in this context doesn't makes you a bad person, then I don't know what is.
- PakG1 8y agoFair point. If I knew a couple in an open relationship, I'd be uncomfortable, but I wouldn't make a judgment on their integrity.
- jiggunjer 8y agoLogical fallacy. Doing one bad thing does not make one a "bad person" if such a thing even exists. If the alternative is to break up a family so the cheater can be 'honest' with him-/herself, is a lie and a happy family worse than a broken family? Stop seeing things black and white.
- mmsimanga 8y agoThe older I get the more I realise life is complicated. I get the need for us to strive to be the best we can be and to those around us but it ain't easy. Please don't get me wrong, imoral acts should be condemned but often I wonder when I reading wording on headlines whether the person killed 3 innocent people or had an affair.
- coatmatter 8y ago> imoral acts should be condemned What defines immorality and how should that condemnation take place?
- mmsimanga 8y agoAh you have hit the nail on the head. It's not just who defines morality, it is often also circumstances surrounding events that all combine to make life complicated. A man and a woman swear to be faithful to each other, then it is immoral to cheat on each other. The religion you follow also defines what is immoral and what isn't. There are also different ways to intepret religious passages. The reason I said life is complicated is because it is impossible to define immorality for everyone. There is also the issue of the law, what is legal may not be moral. Then they are personal circumstances. Is it immoral for an abused married woman/man to cheat? Everyone will have their own answer based on their beliefs. This is why life is complicated. It isn't as straightforward as media headlines we see.
- jiggunjer 8y agoDon't forget Schrödinger. Is there a correlation with being a physicist?
- merinowool 8y agoIt is easy to take moral high ground if one has never been in such situation. Those things are complicated.
- PakG1 8y agoThere are plenty of people who have been in that situation and have regrets. They themselves take the moral high ground in condemning themselves. Hopefully, they heal by also forgiving themselves. People who refuse to admit wrong are more on the sociopathic side of the psychological spectrum.
- rimliu 8y ago> I would not trust any person who cheated on their spouse > either. In personal relationships—by all means. In business matters—it depends, unless you think that someones views about family directly transfers to the business world. If anything I'd speculate there should be an inverse correlation: the more seriously someone treats their business the more sloppy they can be about personal relationships. I would not be surprised if workaholism caused more divorces than cheating.
- user5994461 8y ago>>> I would not be surprised if workaholism caused more divorces than cheating. Doubtful. The man is traditionally expected to have the job and provide for the family, while the woman can take care of the children at home. It's somewhat assumed that the man will spend a lot of time at work.
- zaphirplane 8y agoSuch an absolute and unconditional statement can’t ever be right, Never say never
- 2muchcoffeeman 8y agoRelationship not working for you? Tell them. I’d love to hear a logical reason to cheat. I suppose at the same time you shouldn’t jump to conclusions. But if I knew someone was cheating. Definitely trusting them much less.