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> maybe if the quic people had built on it instead of udp Then QUIC would be as dead in the water as sctp is: between all the middleboxes currently running the
by pilif 8y ago
> maybe if the quic people had built on it instead of udp
Then QUIC would be as dead in the water as sctp is: between all the middleboxes currently running the internet it’s impossible to pass any low level protocol that wasn’t in use in the late 90ies when firewalls started to happen.
As a matter of fact, quic is an attempt to get sctp like semantics going over a protocol that has a chance of being transmittable over the internet.
In order for sctp to gain uptake, we need to collectively update all routers, firewalls, OSes and applications. In order for quic to gain uptake, we need to update applications.
- kev009 8y agoQUIC is kind of like a relaxed TCP over UDP. You can do SCTP over UDP (aka WebRTC), and TCP over UDP to gain those application-managed benefits with varying upper level trade offs. SCTP has pretty wide support, but it's kind of like an IPv6-lite in terms of re-education and that is the barrier to move forward if to supplant or scalably supplement TCP for the web.