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I think this is not uncommon, even nowadays. Noone likes to admit it because being politically correct and stuff. Even at company parties at big corporations, s
by kerng 8y ago
I think this is not uncommon, even nowadays. Noone likes to admit it because being politically correct and stuff. Even at company parties at big corporations, some Sales and Marketing folks tend go a bit overboard - and employees hooking up with each isn't unusual during such festivities either.
- lixtra 8y ago> employees hooking up with each isn't unusual Of course they do. Employees are not slaves. They are free to bond as they like.
- mboto 8y agoIsn't this a cultural difference in the US that's different from Europe, in that colleagues don't get involved?
- cm2187 8y agoThe problem is that in the current #metoo environment, that would be taking a massive legal risk. Sweden recently passed a legislation that requires a proof of consent, or otherwise treats any sexual relationship as rape by default...
- Letmesleep69 8y agoI have seen this a few times here on HN and it's just totally incorrect. The new law still places the burden of proving that consent was not given on the victim. Some papers reported it incorrectly but have published corrections.
- cm2187 8y agoFirst result on google: https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/consent-law-revising-rape-criteria-takes-effect-sweden-56300254 https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/consent-law-r... I don't have a view on whether this reflects the Swedish law correctly but if it does, I don't believe that changes anything nor that I am incorrect. Unless the other party established explicit, provable consent (he says-she says won't help in court), we are in absence of consent, and therefore rape territory. You can't prove absence of anything.
- zbentley 8y agoColleagues get involved a lot, but it's often fraught/stigmatized--but not too much. Most Europeans I know feel similarly: it happens, but is a less-than-great idea for a lot of reasons, chief among them that if it goes badly you might still end up having to work closely with the person, or choose between them and the job.
- paulie_a 8y agoIt's extremely common, they just keep it quiet from HR. If they end up getting married it becomes known and is acceptable in the open.
- lagadu 8y ago> Even at company parties at big corporations, some Sales and Marketing folks tend go a bit overboard - and employees hooking up with each isn't unusual during such festivities either. Heh, you should see company parties in northern Europe.
- dagw 8y agoI think that's largely a myth or at least an exaggeration. I've worked in both Norway and Sweden (and currently live in Sweden) and I've never seen an office party get even close to going way overboard. Office parties in the US and the UK I've seen have been 'worse'.
- unixhero 8y agoI work in a Fortune500 company in a Nordic branch. It's extremely easy to hook up. There's like a mentality that "since you work here" you're already pre-screened :) Summer parties at the office often devolve into something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIf1fydxrfo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIf1fydxrfo Global gatherings are, indeed, very crazy. Maybe it's something like this: "If you can't be corrupt anymore, at least you can be sexually corrupt!"
- coldtea 8y ago