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They don't "divvy up personal emails", you do, by clicking the "allow" button under an explicit permission screen (https://storage.googleapis.com/gweb-uniblog-p

by sqdbps 8y ago

They don't "divvy up personal emails", you do, by clicking the "allow" button under an explicit permission screen (https://storage.googleapis.com/gweb-uniblog-publish-prod/images/gsuite_gmail_security_checkup_third_party_.max-1000x1000.jpg https://storage.googleapis.com/gweb-uniblog-publish-prod/ima...). And you might give that access for reasons you deem useful, like CRMs and what not. Are people really not getting this? because I'm starting to think that this is an elaborate prank on my expense.

mankash666 8y ago
People perfectly get this. When Google is used as an auth provider, people get accustomed to robo-clicking the "allow" button. While there are legit use cases to grant permission to emails, many 3rd parties rely on you robo-allowing them access. It's Google's duty to protect users from such apps
- sqdbps 8y ago
  Who says they don't? they've listed the ways in the linked blogpost: https://www.blog.google/technology/safety-security/ensuring-your-security-and-privacy-within-gmail/ https://www.blog.google/technology/safety-security/ensuring-..., https://support.google.com/a/answer/7281227?hl=en https://support.google.com/a/answer/7281227?hl=en, https://support.google.com/googleapi/answer/7394288#ensure-approval https://support.google.com/googleapi/answer/7394288#ensure-a..., https://developers.google.com/terms/api-services-user-data-policy https://developers.google.com/terms/api-services-user-data-p... Certain people have determined to catch google in the wrong here even if that isn't the case so they are conveniently framing the situation and omitting key details. Not to mention that having the user abdicate all responsibility to their actions in any situation is infantilizing and stupid.
  - mankash666 8y ago
    1. You appear to be a Google employee, or a huge Google fanboy. Either is fine with me, but I hope you see your pro-Google bias. 2. In general, I'm defensive of Google, against all the unreasonable shite hurled at them. However, I stand my ground on email access to 3rd parties. My mom, your mom, your grandad, etc. aren't reading through legalese & Google blog/support. As the world's largest internet company, people expect Google to prevent these vulnerable people from being exploited. 3. Even the tech savvy rarely read TOS, especially on trusted sites like Google. They just expect Google to do the right thing.
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by sqdbps 8y ago

mankash666 8y ago

People perfectly get this. When Google is used as an auth provider, people get accustomed to robo-clicking the "allow" button. While there are legit use cases to grant permission to emails, many 3rd parties rely on you robo-allowing them access. It's Google's duty to protect users from such apps

sqdbps 8y ago
Who says they don't? they've listed the ways in the linked blogpost: https://www.blog.google/technology/safety-security/ensuring-your-security-and-privacy-within-gmail/ https://www.blog.google/technology/safety-security/ensuring-..., https://support.google.com/a/answer/7281227?hl=en https://support.google.com/a/answer/7281227?hl=en, https://support.google.com/googleapi/answer/7394288#ensure-approval https://support.google.com/googleapi/answer/7394288#ensure-a..., https://developers.google.com/terms/api-services-user-data-policy https://developers.google.com/terms/api-services-user-data-p... Certain people have determined to catch google in the wrong here even if that isn't the case so they are conveniently framing the situation and omitting key details. Not to mention that having the user abdicate all responsibility to their actions in any situation is infantilizing and stupid.
- mankash666 8y ago
  1. You appear to be a Google employee, or a huge Google fanboy. Either is fine with me, but I hope you see your pro-Google bias. 2. In general, I'm defensive of Google, against all the unreasonable shite hurled at them. However, I stand my ground on email access to 3rd parties. My mom, your mom, your grandad, etc. aren't reading through legalese & Google blog/support. As the world's largest internet company, people expect Google to prevent these vulnerable people from being exploited. 3. Even the tech savvy rarely read TOS, especially on trusted sites like Google. They just expect Google to do the right thing.
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