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But it's not a neutral face. It's a face of disdain and contempt. This is a neutral face: https://cdn.psychologytoday.com/sites/default/files/styles/article-in

But it's not a neutral face. It's a face of disdain and contempt. This is a neutral face: https://cdn.psychologytoday.com/sites/default/files/styles/article-inline-half/public/field_blog_entry_images/shutterstock_114522091.jpg?itok=a7EVvRFs https://cdn.psychologytoday.com/sites/default/files/styles/a... And this is the face of disdain I'm talking about: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSGkhmT2x0fhKItaDSLmrBPiDSaHYt2TccXHGNV4_5aPWpXIsxlZg https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSGkhmT...

phs318u 8y ago
I know this is subjective but I just don’t see “disdain and contempt” (which assumes the model is trying to communicate something about the viewer) in the sample you provided. I see possibly “secretiveness” and “a challenging disposition” (I assume the model is trying to convey something about herself).
thebooktocome 8y ago
They both look neutral to me?
Pfhreak 8y ago
I don't see that second picture on the cv dazzle site at all. All the pictures I see on cv are unquestionably neutral in disposition.
- tzahola 8y ago
  Ok, here's an example from the cvdazzle site: https://cvdazzle.com/assets/img/coreana/coreana-04-copyright-cha-hyun-seo.jpg https://cvdazzle.com/assets/img/coreana/coreana-04-copyright...
  - wavefunction 8y ago
    "Cyberpunk. The Attitude. Get It." -- A page out of Mondo 2000
danharaj 8y ago
Maybe it seems that way to you because the second person has very different facial features and the lighting is much more dramatic?
kolpa 8y ago
Narrowing the eyes looks like disdain to you, but that's a side effect. Widening eyes draws attention to the eyes. Clothing models shouldn't draw attention to their eyes.
kaitai 8y ago
Sometimes it's for a better picture (looking up from under lowered eyebrows, for instance), and sometimes it's just how their faces look - consider the phenomenon of "resting b*&^! face". Many people do consider a neutral face to be aggressive or unpleasant, studies show, regardless of the intent of the person with the face.
philwelch 8y ago
Especially to Western eyes, resting faces--some in particular--can often be interpreted that way because we're so used to forced smiles. This is particularly true for strangers because we don't have the experience to read their individual emotional expressions. > So Jason Rogers and Abbe Macbeth, behavioral researchers with international research and innovation firm Noldus Information Technology, decided to investigate: Why are some faces seen as truly expressionless, but others are inexplicably off-putting? > ... > The researchers enlisted Noldus’s FaceReader.... The software...analyzes the image and assigns an expression based on eight basic human emotions: happiness, sadness, anger, fear, surprise, disgust, contempt, and “neutral.” > To establish a baseline, Rogers and Macbeth first had FaceReader assess a series of genuinely expressionless faces. Those expressions registered about 97 percent neutrality, Macbeth said... > Then they plugged in photos of RBF all-stars Kanye West, Kristen Stewart and Queen Elizabeth. Suddenly, the level of emotion detected by the software doubled to six percent. > One particular emotion was responsible for the jump: “The big change in percentage came from ‘contempt,’” Macbeth said. Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2016/02/02/scientists-have-discovered-the-source-of-your-resting-bitch-face/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.934e6e0ade8e https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/w...
- dingaling 8y ago
  Re: forced smiles. I encourage other adults not to say 'smile' when taking a photo of their children. Their natural expressions are often funnier and more insightful especially years later.

phs318u 8y ago

I know this is subjective but I just don’t see “disdain and contempt” (which assumes the model is trying to communicate something about the viewer) in the sample you provided. I see possibly “secretiveness” and “a challenging disposition” (I assume the model is trying to convey something about herself).

thebooktocome 8y ago

They both look neutral to me?

Pfhreak 8y ago

I don't see that second picture on the cv dazzle site at all. All the pictures I see on cv are unquestionably neutral in disposition.

tzahola 8y ago
Ok, here's an example from the cvdazzle site: https://cvdazzle.com/assets/img/coreana/coreana-04-copyright-cha-hyun-seo.jpg https://cvdazzle.com/assets/img/coreana/coreana-04-copyright...
- wavefunction 8y ago
  "Cyberpunk. The Attitude. Get It." -- A page out of Mondo 2000

danharaj 8y ago

Maybe it seems that way to you because the second person has very different facial features and the lighting is much more dramatic?

kolpa 8y ago

Narrowing the eyes looks like disdain to you, but that's a side effect. Widening eyes draws attention to the eyes. Clothing models shouldn't draw attention to their eyes.

kaitai 8y ago

Sometimes it's for a better picture (looking up from under lowered eyebrows, for instance), and sometimes it's just how their faces look - consider the phenomenon of "resting b*&^! face". Many people do consider a neutral face to be aggressive or unpleasant, studies show, regardless of the intent of the person with the face.

philwelch 8y ago

Especially to Western eyes, resting faces--some in particular--can often be interpreted that way because we're so used to forced smiles. This is particularly true for strangers because we don't have the experience to read their individual emotional expressions. > So Jason Rogers and Abbe Macbeth, behavioral researchers with international research and innovation firm Noldus Information Technology, decided to investigate: Why are some faces seen as truly expressionless, but others are inexplicably off-putting? > ... > The researchers enlisted Noldus’s FaceReader.... The software...analyzes the image and assigns an expression based on eight basic human emotions: happiness, sadness, anger, fear, surprise, disgust, contempt, and “neutral.” > To establish a baseline, Rogers and Macbeth first had FaceReader assess a series of genuinely expressionless faces. Those expressions registered about 97 percent neutrality, Macbeth said... > Then they plugged in photos of RBF all-stars Kanye West, Kristen Stewart and Queen Elizabeth. Suddenly, the level of emotion detected by the software doubled to six percent. > One particular emotion was responsible for the jump: “The big change in percentage came from ‘contempt,’” Macbeth said. Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2016/02/02/scientists-have-discovered-the-source-of-your-resting-bitch-face/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.934e6e0ade8e https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/w...

dingaling 8y ago
Re: forced smiles. I encourage other adults not to say 'smile' when taking a photo of their children. Their natural expressions are often funnier and more insightful especially years later.