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Even worse for the managers, WFH would reveal how mostly unnecessary they are.
by Melchizedek 8y ago
Even worse for the managers, WFH would reveal how mostly unnecessary they are.
- sidlls 8y agoExcept for doing all the stuff "100% heads down coders" don't want to do, like run the parts of the business that actually bring in revenue, you mean.
- ryandrake 8y agoRight, I think some people honestly think that software just magically leaps from developers’ fingertips onto store shelves. Product management, project management, operations, marketing, legal, sales, BD? They just sit in meetings and play Candy Crush all day...
- Melchizedek 8y agoI never claimed that everybody but software engineers are useless, I wrote that managers are mostly useless, as in you could reduce their number by perhaps 2/3 and you would get the same results (probably better).
- sidlls 8y agoYes, I was responding specifically to that and specifically about management. Managers do a hell of a lot more than most coders give credit for.
- HumanDrivenDev 8y agoI wrote that managers are mostly useless The ones that aren't are worth their weight in gold, though.
- carlivar 8y agoWhere do you work? I've rarely experienced this. Current and last company, both fast moving adtech firms, we are always desperate for good managers. BUT the key is only to have managers with, well, management skills. That does not mean promoting the best engineers to management, a common problem. In fact it is often specifically not that. They get promoted in the tech track. The book "Managing Humans" is worth a read if you're so cynical about managers. Though the actual problem is corporate culture in my experience.
- DoofusOfDeath 8y agoI'm not sure if you're joking. IME a team with remote workers needs better management, because of the additional kinds of problems that can arise.
- wool_gather 8y agoYou need a good manager to keep all the other managers off your back so you can code.