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This is pretty standard and has been going on for decades. Asian-Americans are the last race you can openly commit racist policies against without dogwhistling.

This is pretty standard and has been going on for decades. Asian-Americans are the last race you can openly commit racist policies against without dogwhistling. I don't know what it is, maybe it's because they are politically underreprsented or it's because they are underrepresented in popular culture in general, or their general attitude to be anti-political in nature, but it's just totally fine to withhold educational resources and outcomes for an entire race of people. It is particularly bad against Chinese-Americans, I've found. I remember dealing with it as a young child growing up in the Midwest as a Japanese-American whose grandparents were interned in California. I didn't come to "appreciate" the level of systemic, acceptable racism baked into society against Asian-Americans until much later in life. My feelings on it now are kind of whatever. It is what it is and I don't see it changing much. I sure don't see white activists taking up the Asian banner, though.

dmurray 8y ago
I'm pretty sure you can also "openly commit racist policies against" white people and get away with it.
jsoc815 8y ago
> This is pretty standard... I don't know what it is... Mostly the numbers. The "Asian" population in America is relatively small, and thus (perceived to be) easily managed. If one looks at demographic shifts, immigration policy, etc., over the course of the European expansion in to what is now America, the game should be pretty clear. Actually, Brazil is also a good example, if you look at their post-slavery immigration plan/policy.[2] Anyway, I'm linking to an old post of mine from the Harvard discussion.[1] I highly recommend checking out Prof. Frank Wu's comments in the referenced video. Also, it's worth noting that generally speaking, public schools are not considered to be elite. Elite schools are generally the exclusive ones where politicians, captains of industry, and the like send their kids to help them socialize with 'the right kind of people,' and maybe a smattering of common folk. I've been to those (as one of the common folk) and to elite public schools; the difference really is night and day. This whole thing is just more divide and conquer. It pains me to see people continue to fall for it. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17335887 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17335887 [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/30/opinion/is-neymar-black-brazil-and-the-painful-relativity-of-race.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/30/opinion/is-neymar-black-b...
- icelancer 8y ago
  >> Also, it's worth noting that generally speaking, public schools are not considered to be elite. That's typically true but not of the NY high schools. These schools are truly elite high schools.
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eeeuo 8y ago
> I sure don't see white activists taking up the Asian banner, though. I suspect this will change in the very near future. The center-right has realized, very belatedly, that they have an opportunity with stories like this. White writers from places like The National Review have been pushing stories about Asian discrimination whenever possible over the last few months. It is a way for them to rail against "Liberal PC" culture under the guise of supporting a non-white race and achieving social justice, both of which are effective attributes when arguing with liberals. It will be be interesting to see if the Republican party overall will move towards courting Asian-Americans, especially those of East Asian descent. In addition to stories like the OP, Asians tend on average to have more traditional views which more closely align culturally with conservatives. Of course, the Republican party continues to hurt their future by taking every opportunity to alienate non-white voters. In places like Canada, which is culturally similar but in which the conservatives are less concerned with race and more concerned with ideology, the conservative party has built a strong coalition with Asian immigrants. This is largely unthinkable in modern day US, but it is something we could see in the near future.

dmurray 8y ago

I'm pretty sure you can also "openly commit racist policies against" white people and get away with it.

jsoc815 8y ago

> This is pretty standard... I don't know what it is... Mostly the numbers. The "Asian" population in America is relatively small, and thus (perceived to be) easily managed. If one looks at demographic shifts, immigration policy, etc., over the course of the European expansion in to what is now America, the game should be pretty clear. Actually, Brazil is also a good example, if you look at their post-slavery immigration plan/policy.[2] Anyway, I'm linking to an old post of mine from the Harvard discussion.[1] I highly recommend checking out Prof. Frank Wu's comments in the referenced video. Also, it's worth noting that generally speaking, public schools are not considered to be elite. Elite schools are generally the exclusive ones where politicians, captains of industry, and the like send their kids to help them socialize with 'the right kind of people,' and maybe a smattering of common folk. I've been to those (as one of the common folk) and to elite public schools; the difference really is night and day. This whole thing is just more divide and conquer. It pains me to see people continue to fall for it. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17335887 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17335887 [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/30/opinion/is-neymar-black-brazil-and-the-painful-relativity-of-race.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/30/opinion/is-neymar-black-b...

icelancer 8y ago
>> Also, it's worth noting that generally speaking, public schools are not considered to be elite. That's typically true but not of the NY high schools. These schools are truly elite high schools.

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eeeuo 8y ago

> I sure don't see white activists taking up the Asian banner, though. I suspect this will change in the very near future. The center-right has realized, very belatedly, that they have an opportunity with stories like this. White writers from places like The National Review have been pushing stories about Asian discrimination whenever possible over the last few months. It is a way for them to rail against "Liberal PC" culture under the guise of supporting a non-white race and achieving social justice, both of which are effective attributes when arguing with liberals. It will be be interesting to see if the Republican party overall will move towards courting Asian-Americans, especially those of East Asian descent. In addition to stories like the OP, Asians tend on average to have more traditional views which more closely align culturally with conservatives. Of course, the Republican party continues to hurt their future by taking every opportunity to alienate non-white voters. In places like Canada, which is culturally similar but in which the conservatives are less concerned with race and more concerned with ideology, the conservative party has built a strong coalition with Asian immigrants. This is largely unthinkable in modern day US, but it is something we could see in the near future.