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To make it feasible you don't need much, just journalists signing videos and uploading them somewhere besides publishing anywhere unsigned. This will make every

To make it feasible you don't need much, just journalists signing videos and uploading them somewhere besides publishing anywhere unsigned. This will make every unsigned video easily verifiable, just not with crypto.

binarymax 8y ago
That's fine for journalists, but does nothing to prevent fakes captured by the populace. A good deal of our journalism now is by on scene witnesses. What can we do about fakes posted on social media purported to be the real capture of some scandal or event?
- fooey 8y ago
  I think what we'll see is something less like the Jordan Peele version of Obama based on a public clip, and something more like a faked version of the Romney 47% video Start with something naturally unfocused and exists only as a one off original, and it would be extremely hard to disprove without comparing it to other video of the same event.
- JetSpiegel 8y ago
  We are already vulnerable to this attack, they are just called "viral marketing campaigns".
21 8y ago
In the last years there have been quite a few cases of journalists resigning from very prestigious publications (NYT, ...) because they were caught fabricating news.
- zzzcpan 8y ago
  Yeah, well, it doesn't matter much whether they use false information or not, as their purpose is to paint a picture they want people to see either way.
msla 8y ago
> To make it feasible you don't need much, just journalists signing videos and uploading them somewhere besides publishing anywhere unsigned. And in order to implement that, you'll be talking to people who'd sign a video by getting a pen, some paper, and a flatbed scanner. I'm not entirely joking. My point is that this proves that there comes a point in every field where technical illiteracy goes from being annoying for you (you can't use the best tools anymore, and your workflow is now sub-par) to annoying for others (you can't collaborate effectively) to completely unworkable, as when your work product is now worthless because you can't demonstrate it isn't a cheap forgery. And some people are just not technical, through stubbornness or otherwise. This transition will hurt. Maybe tools will follow the demand. I'm not entirely sanguine.

binarymax 8y ago

That's fine for journalists, but does nothing to prevent fakes captured by the populace. A good deal of our journalism now is by on scene witnesses. What can we do about fakes posted on social media purported to be the real capture of some scandal or event?

fooey 8y ago
I think what we'll see is something less like the Jordan Peele version of Obama based on a public clip, and something more like a faked version of the Romney 47% video Start with something naturally unfocused and exists only as a one off original, and it would be extremely hard to disprove without comparing it to other video of the same event.
JetSpiegel 8y ago
We are already vulnerable to this attack, they are just called "viral marketing campaigns".

21 8y ago

In the last years there have been quite a few cases of journalists resigning from very prestigious publications (NYT, ...) because they were caught fabricating news.

zzzcpan 8y ago
Yeah, well, it doesn't matter much whether they use false information or not, as their purpose is to paint a picture they want people to see either way.

msla 8y ago

> To make it feasible you don't need much, just journalists signing videos and uploading them somewhere besides publishing anywhere unsigned. And in order to implement that, you'll be talking to people who'd sign a video by getting a pen, some paper, and a flatbed scanner. I'm not entirely joking. My point is that this proves that there comes a point in every field where technical illiteracy goes from being annoying for you (you can't use the best tools anymore, and your workflow is now sub-par) to annoying for others (you can't collaborate effectively) to completely unworkable, as when your work product is now worthless because you can't demonstrate it isn't a cheap forgery. And some people are just not technical, through stubbornness or otherwise. This transition will hurt. Maybe tools will follow the demand. I'm not entirely sanguine.