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Facebook relaxed rules to give companies special access to user data

155 points by ss2003 8y ago

JumpCrisscross 8y ago
> 24. Mail.ru Optics-wise, someone dropped the ball.
- deleted 8y ago
  [deleted]
- jadedhacker 8y ago
  I don't like FB, but that was in 2015 before people went crazy with Russia hysteria.
  - phreenet 8y ago
    Russia was in Crimea and anti-Russian rhetoric / sanctions were going into effect in that time frame. So I would say people were justifiably concerned in 2015 and FB should have known better.
    - mattj1 8y ago
      And aside from annexing part of another country and downing a commercial airliner, nothing to see here. Just some light active measures against democratic elections from Russia - not something to get hysterical about.
      - vkou 8y ago
        The airliner was overflying a warzone. Just like an airliner downed by the United States [1]. I'm not mentioning this to bring up old slights - I'm mentioning this because there is no institutional, moral, or policy reason for why such an event will not happen again, whether it's perpetrated by Russia, India, the United States, or the Free Republic of Boratistan. Militaries will occasionally shoot at airplanes. Flying airplanes near active military deployments is dangerous. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
        craftyguy 8y ago
        Victim blaming much? Commercial airliners look nothing like strategic bombers. If militaries made more of an effort to identify targets before pulling the trigger, these types of situations could be avoided. That would actually take careful consideration and a valuation of non-combatants' lives, but hey it's more fun and easier to just blow stuff up amirite
        vkou 8y ago
        > If militaries made more of an effort to identify targets before pulling the trigger, these types of situations could be avoided. That would actually take careful consideration and a valuation of non-combatants' lives, but hey it's more fun and easier to just blow stuff up amirite They don't, though. This is not a problem unique to the Russian military.
        JumpCrisscross 8y ago
        > If militaries made more of an effort to identify targets The missile wasn't fired by the Russian military. Instead, Moscow gave some freedom fighters/rebels/terrorists an incredibly-powerful weapon and then failed to supervise them.
        geoka9 8y ago
        Well, the launcher was quite possibly manned by Russian military personnel. Which would make sense, since operating such a weapon requires a professional crew.
      - jadedhacker 8y ago
        This is a sensible reaction if you remember nothing of history. Russia is acting out because NATO has crept up to its borders and Russia has been subjected to invasions since Napoleon. The Russian interference seen so far has been clumsy and of the parts that may have had an impact, they are nothing compared to Bill Clinton's open support of Boris Yeltsin in the 90s and US interference in elections around the world since forever including military coups and the assassination of democratically elected leaders. While obviously not ideal, the rest of the world is laughing at us. Of note, the only piece of confirmed meddling has been the alleged disclosure of voting system tampering by a whistle blower, Reality Winner, now facing hard prison time. She has received no cover from the Democratic Party. They are hawks and hypocrites.
edf13 8y ago
> 11. DataSift Errm. "DataSift is the leader in Human Data Intelligence. The only independent provider of social data, blog data and news data." So where did the data end up after DataSift would be my question.
- sofaofthedamned 8y ago
  Same with Oracle and their Data Cloud or whatever it's called now.
  - edm0nd 8y ago
    Datalogix
    - sofaofthedamned 8y ago
      That's the one! Thank you.
miracle2k 8y ago
And of course it's obligatory to point out that these companies did not actually have access to any "special" data, they merely had the same, normal access that hundreds of thousands of app developers had at the time, and which required them to convince a Facebook user to allow access to their account. These companies were merely allowed to keep the older, slightly wider access, for a little while longer than you and me.
nerdponx 8y ago
Adium What the heck is Adium doing on that list? Is this the same Adium as the chat client?
- thrillgore 8y ago
  Adium/Pidgin had protocol support for Facebook Messenger.

155 points by ss2003 8y ago

JumpCrisscross 8y ago

> 24. Mail.ru Optics-wise, someone dropped the ball.

deleted 8y ago
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jadedhacker 8y ago
I don't like FB, but that was in 2015 before people went crazy with Russia hysteria.
- phreenet 8y ago
  Russia was in Crimea and anti-Russian rhetoric / sanctions were going into effect in that time frame. So I would say people were justifiably concerned in 2015 and FB should have known better.
  - mattj1 8y ago
    And aside from annexing part of another country and downing a commercial airliner, nothing to see here. Just some light active measures against democratic elections from Russia - not something to get hysterical about.
    - vkou 8y ago
      The airliner was overflying a warzone. Just like an airliner downed by the United States [1]. I'm not mentioning this to bring up old slights - I'm mentioning this because there is no institutional, moral, or policy reason for why such an event will not happen again, whether it's perpetrated by Russia, India, the United States, or the Free Republic of Boratistan. Militaries will occasionally shoot at airplanes. Flying airplanes near active military deployments is dangerous. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655
      - craftyguy 8y ago
        Victim blaming much? Commercial airliners look nothing like strategic bombers. If militaries made more of an effort to identify targets before pulling the trigger, these types of situations could be avoided. That would actually take careful consideration and a valuation of non-combatants' lives, but hey it's more fun and easier to just blow stuff up amirite
        vkou 8y ago
        > If militaries made more of an effort to identify targets before pulling the trigger, these types of situations could be avoided. That would actually take careful consideration and a valuation of non-combatants' lives, but hey it's more fun and easier to just blow stuff up amirite They don't, though. This is not a problem unique to the Russian military.
        JumpCrisscross 8y ago
        > If militaries made more of an effort to identify targets The missile wasn't fired by the Russian military. Instead, Moscow gave some freedom fighters/rebels/terrorists an incredibly-powerful weapon and then failed to supervise them.
        geoka9 8y ago
        Well, the launcher was quite possibly manned by Russian military personnel. Which would make sense, since operating such a weapon requires a professional crew.
    - jadedhacker 8y ago
      This is a sensible reaction if you remember nothing of history. Russia is acting out because NATO has crept up to its borders and Russia has been subjected to invasions since Napoleon. The Russian interference seen so far has been clumsy and of the parts that may have had an impact, they are nothing compared to Bill Clinton's open support of Boris Yeltsin in the 90s and US interference in elections around the world since forever including military coups and the assassination of democratically elected leaders. While obviously not ideal, the rest of the world is laughing at us. Of note, the only piece of confirmed meddling has been the alleged disclosure of voting system tampering by a whistle blower, Reality Winner, now facing hard prison time. She has received no cover from the Democratic Party. They are hawks and hypocrites.

edf13 8y ago

> 11. DataSift Errm. "DataSift is the leader in Human Data Intelligence. The only independent provider of social data, blog data and news data." So where did the data end up after DataSift would be my question.

sofaofthedamned 8y ago
Same with Oracle and their Data Cloud or whatever it's called now.
- edm0nd 8y ago
  Datalogix
  - sofaofthedamned 8y ago
    That's the one! Thank you.

miracle2k 8y ago

And of course it's obligatory to point out that these companies did not actually have access to any "special" data, they merely had the same, normal access that hundreds of thousands of app developers had at the time, and which required them to convince a Facebook user to allow access to their account. These companies were merely allowed to keep the older, slightly wider access, for a little while longer than you and me.

nerdponx 8y ago

Adium What the heck is Adium doing on that list? Is this the same Adium as the chat client?

thrillgore 8y ago
Adium/Pidgin had protocol support for Facebook Messenger.