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My professor always said, ideas are like hemorrhoids, every asshole sooner or later gets some. "If people could migrate freely around the world to seek work, e

My professor always said, ideas are like hemorrhoids, every asshole sooner or later gets some. "If people could migrate freely around the world to seek work, economists crudely estimate that world GDP would roughly double, and that most of this enormous windfall would go to the poorest people on Earth. There is literally a hundred trillion dollar bill on the sidewalk for bringing together third-world labor and first-world legal systems, capital, and service demand." You realize that many, if not most third world countries are third world countries because of the mentality, religion (won't mention it, no worries) and tribal thinking? This is exactly the problem we have in Europe. I don't mind immigrants, not at all. But they come here and bring their beliefs, values (about women, violence etc.) and tribal thinking and create here exactly the problems they have in their home country. They see our apples and they want to have apples too. But they don't get the idea that the apples could have anything to do with the tree they are growing on.

forapurpose 8y ago
> My professor always said, ideas are like hemorrhoids, every asshole sooner or later gets some. What does that contribute? That could apply to your idea too, or mine. > they come here and bring their beliefs, values (about women, violence etc.) and tribal thinking and create here exactly the problems they have in their home country. They see our apples and they want to have apples too. But they don't get the idea that the apples could have anything to do with the tree they are growing on. This is really an incredibly broad stereotype to paint on hundreds of millions of individuals. Perhaps like you, they should be judged on their individual actions and have the right to believe what they like. And who is the parent to judge others and take away their rights? I don't like the parent's beliefs (which I find especially based on "tribal" ideas)' should they be ejected from my country if they are my neighbor? (No, absolutely not.)
- tiatia123 8y ago
  > What does that contribute? That could apply to your idea too, or mine. It is intellectual over-engineering of cultures. It looks tremendously good on paper. > This is really an incredibly broad stereotype to paint on hundreds of millions of individuals. No, it really isn't since Europe is not flooded with Chinese, Americans or Australians but with people with a very low skill set, very different attitude towards violence and women, from tribal societies and with a religion they feel is far superior. > And who is the parent to judge others and take away their rights? I am not judging them. I don't even say that their culture is inferior. If an industrialized society breaks down (think Mad Max if you want) they are in a far superior position. The question is: If women should have no rights, if you have the best religion, if you want to bury gay people alive, why not stay in your home country? By the way, I am just visiting Romania. Romania is willing to take refuges but refuges are not willing to take Romania. Why? No living on welfare...
dang 8y ago
Please don't cross into fighting nationalistic battles on HN. I realize the GP semi-invited it, but that's no reason to dive fully into the mud. Also, your first sentence is a nasty personal attack. We ban accounts that do that, so please don't do it again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

forapurpose 8y ago

> My professor always said, ideas are like hemorrhoids, every asshole sooner or later gets some. What does that contribute? That could apply to your idea too, or mine. > they come here and bring their beliefs, values (about women, violence etc.) and tribal thinking and create here exactly the problems they have in their home country. They see our apples and they want to have apples too. But they don't get the idea that the apples could have anything to do with the tree they are growing on. This is really an incredibly broad stereotype to paint on hundreds of millions of individuals. Perhaps like you, they should be judged on their individual actions and have the right to believe what they like. And who is the parent to judge others and take away their rights? I don't like the parent's beliefs (which I find especially based on "tribal" ideas)' should they be ejected from my country if they are my neighbor? (No, absolutely not.)

tiatia123 8y ago
> What does that contribute? That could apply to your idea too, or mine. It is intellectual over-engineering of cultures. It looks tremendously good on paper. > This is really an incredibly broad stereotype to paint on hundreds of millions of individuals. No, it really isn't since Europe is not flooded with Chinese, Americans or Australians but with people with a very low skill set, very different attitude towards violence and women, from tribal societies and with a religion they feel is far superior. > And who is the parent to judge others and take away their rights? I am not judging them. I don't even say that their culture is inferior. If an industrialized society breaks down (think Mad Max if you want) they are in a far superior position. The question is: If women should have no rights, if you have the best religion, if you want to bury gay people alive, why not stay in your home country? By the way, I am just visiting Romania. Romania is willing to take refuges but refuges are not willing to take Romania. Why? No living on welfare...

dang 8y ago

Please don't cross into fighting nationalistic battles on HN. I realize the GP semi-invited it, but that's no reason to dive fully into the mud. Also, your first sentence is a nasty personal attack. We ban accounts that do that, so please don't do it again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html