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> Buying a Chrysler was a huge mistake One of my good friends is an automotive engineer. He's told me never to buy a Chrysler product, no matter what. That inc

> Buying a Chrysler was a huge mistake One of my good friends is an automotive engineer. He's told me never to buy a Chrysler product, no matter what. That includes Jeep, Fiat, Dodge, Ram, etc. It's pretty bad when the people who design your cars literally think you are the worst car on the market. I tell people this when they are looking for cars, and they always tell me "Well I asked the salesman about [whatever issue they heard Chryslers have], and he said they got rid of those issues." Without fail, a few years later there are a whole bunch of problems with whatever Chrysler. I really don't understand how your cost accounting can be so terrible that literally everything you design has a horrible flaw. I guess they stay in business because people always want Jeeps and cheap cars that have 'luxury' interiors.

gonyea 8y ago
My expectation was that the car would start to have issues gradually. Eg, you can generally hear when an engine starts to misbehave. I got the Pacifica b/c it was a quiet, comfortable ride and accepted the higher cost of ownership. Now I wonder if their airbags will actually deploy in a crash. Cars are now becoming a pile of soft-buttons, and I don’t see how that makes he experience better. There’s no physical lever to stop your car in an emergency in most new cars. Just a [P] toggle. Even the Chrysler has a really dumb knob for changing gears on the transmission (which people often confuse with a volume knob). I may just buy a Chevy Tahoe next; it’s a much simpler car with sufficient luxury & tech.
- Someone1234 8y ago
  > I may just buy a Chevy Tahoe next; it’s a much simpler car with sufficient luxury & tech. Or just buy non-American brands: Honda, Toyota, Subaru, and others. There's lots of highly reliable car makers, Chrysler and Chevy aren't it.
  - Declanomous 8y ago
    Not to say Chevy's are reliable, but they are definitely better than Chrysler. I don't understand brand loyalty with cars though. I can understand wanting to buy an American car, but even then it might make more sense to buy a foreign car depending on how you define what an 'American car' is.
    - sjg007 8y ago
      The Suburban is pretty solid.. Fords are also pretty good. I had a Uber driver who swore by Lincolns. He had one with 300k miles on it. He did have to replace parts due to wear though but I thought it was still in good condition cosmetically and was a nice ride.
    - DrScump 8y ago
      A lot of "foreign" car makers build many models in the USA. Lots of Fords and Dodges and Nissans are made in Mexico.
  - ledriveby 8y ago
    GM's doing good stuff nowadays. Don't lump them in with FCA product.
ktosobcy 8y ago
Fiat in the past was quite good (eg. Fiat Panda)

gonyea 8y ago

My expectation was that the car would start to have issues gradually. Eg, you can generally hear when an engine starts to misbehave. I got the Pacifica b/c it was a quiet, comfortable ride and accepted the higher cost of ownership. Now I wonder if their airbags will actually deploy in a crash. Cars are now becoming a pile of soft-buttons, and I don’t see how that makes he experience better. There’s no physical lever to stop your car in an emergency in most new cars. Just a [P] toggle. Even the Chrysler has a really dumb knob for changing gears on the transmission (which people often confuse with a volume knob). I may just buy a Chevy Tahoe next; it’s a much simpler car with sufficient luxury & tech.

Someone1234 8y ago
> I may just buy a Chevy Tahoe next; it’s a much simpler car with sufficient luxury & tech. Or just buy non-American brands: Honda, Toyota, Subaru, and others. There's lots of highly reliable car makers, Chrysler and Chevy aren't it.
- Declanomous 8y ago
  Not to say Chevy's are reliable, but they are definitely better than Chrysler. I don't understand brand loyalty with cars though. I can understand wanting to buy an American car, but even then it might make more sense to buy a foreign car depending on how you define what an 'American car' is.
  - sjg007 8y ago
    The Suburban is pretty solid.. Fords are also pretty good. I had a Uber driver who swore by Lincolns. He had one with 300k miles on it. He did have to replace parts due to wear though but I thought it was still in good condition cosmetically and was a nice ride.
  - DrScump 8y ago
    A lot of "foreign" car makers build many models in the USA. Lots of Fords and Dodges and Nissans are made in Mexico.
- ledriveby 8y ago
  GM's doing good stuff nowadays. Don't lump them in with FCA product.

ktosobcy 8y ago

Fiat in the past was quite good (eg. Fiat Panda)