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I bet with further research done properly (which will take decades starting now) we will find that pot use from an early age is not only correlated to diminishe

I bet with further research done properly (which will take decades starting now) we will find that pot use from an early age is not only correlated to diminished quality of life for some, but is a contributing underlying factor enough to tip scales for some. Michael Phelps can down McDonald’s but some are better off limiting their fast food intake. Everyone reacts differently to different arrangements of chemicals in different quantities.

boomboomsubban 8y ago
None of this makes it physically addictive, which is the only issue I'm making. Mental addiction can also be terrible, and can cause the issues described.
- hsienmaneja 8y ago
  Well, the pot physical addiction debate is where we started. If people experience significant physical withdrawal symptoms from cessation of pot use (which seems to be the case for some), then for those people, it absolutely is physically addicting.
  - boomboomsubban 8y ago
    It still isn't physically addicting as at no point does the body need it to function. Physical withdrawal symptoms don't change that, and it's unlikely that science will find new evidence changing this position.
    - trentlott 8y ago
      Addiction and dependence are different.
- DanBC 8y ago
  WHy are you pushing the physical addiction point? Cocaine isn't physically addictive. Cocaine can be terribly harmful.
  - robdachshund 8y ago
    How is weed harmful? Any mental and physical effects subside with cessation of use. My buddy just quit for a month. The only issues he had were having to deal with his terrible IBS without what had effectively become medicine for him. I smoke for similar reasons and for anti anxiety. It is FAR less harmful than brain melting benzos like xanax and Klonopin. Wanna talk about harm? When I was prescribed Klonopin, I essentially blacked out for a month of my life. I didn't "wake up" from that until I missed a dose and promptly tossed it in the trash. If you are so concerned with some nitpicky level of subjective "harm," maybe we should talk about all the harm prescription drugs can cause. When you have chronic illnesses and the medicine only makes you worse, self medication becomes an enticing prospect. What about kids with severe seizures, etc? We've seen some of the most conservative states allow cbd oil because it is the only thing that works. If you have an open mind, you should look into the endocannabinoid system that resides in every human being. We have a massive network of receptors that rely on cannabinoids to mediate chronic illnesses and reduce inflammation in our bodies. It is thought that we have this system and relationship with cannabinoids because humans have been cultivating and consuming marijuana for thousands of years. Weed and humans have developed alongside each other over time in a kind of symbiotic relationship. To simply pretend that weed is some sort of harmful narcotic is so far from the truth. Excess is the issue. A person who let's weed run their life is no different than someone that overeats or procrastinates constantly. If you have bad habits and no self control you can take anything to excess.
  - boomboomsubban 8y ago
    I was replying to this post >That you experience significant physical withdrawal symptoms from marijuana certainty calls into question the street wisdom that pot isn’t (physically) addicting.

boomboomsubban 8y ago

None of this makes it physically addictive, which is the only issue I'm making. Mental addiction can also be terrible, and can cause the issues described.

hsienmaneja 8y ago
Well, the pot physical addiction debate is where we started. If people experience significant physical withdrawal symptoms from cessation of pot use (which seems to be the case for some), then for those people, it absolutely is physically addicting.
- boomboomsubban 8y ago
  It still isn't physically addicting as at no point does the body need it to function. Physical withdrawal symptoms don't change that, and it's unlikely that science will find new evidence changing this position.
  - trentlott 8y ago
    Addiction and dependence are different.
DanBC 8y ago
WHy are you pushing the physical addiction point? Cocaine isn't physically addictive. Cocaine can be terribly harmful.
- robdachshund 8y ago
  How is weed harmful? Any mental and physical effects subside with cessation of use. My buddy just quit for a month. The only issues he had were having to deal with his terrible IBS without what had effectively become medicine for him. I smoke for similar reasons and for anti anxiety. It is FAR less harmful than brain melting benzos like xanax and Klonopin. Wanna talk about harm? When I was prescribed Klonopin, I essentially blacked out for a month of my life. I didn't "wake up" from that until I missed a dose and promptly tossed it in the trash. If you are so concerned with some nitpicky level of subjective "harm," maybe we should talk about all the harm prescription drugs can cause. When you have chronic illnesses and the medicine only makes you worse, self medication becomes an enticing prospect. What about kids with severe seizures, etc? We've seen some of the most conservative states allow cbd oil because it is the only thing that works. If you have an open mind, you should look into the endocannabinoid system that resides in every human being. We have a massive network of receptors that rely on cannabinoids to mediate chronic illnesses and reduce inflammation in our bodies. It is thought that we have this system and relationship with cannabinoids because humans have been cultivating and consuming marijuana for thousands of years. Weed and humans have developed alongside each other over time in a kind of symbiotic relationship. To simply pretend that weed is some sort of harmful narcotic is so far from the truth. Excess is the issue. A person who let's weed run their life is no different than someone that overeats or procrastinates constantly. If you have bad habits and no self control you can take anything to excess.
- boomboomsubban 8y ago
  I was replying to this post >That you experience significant physical withdrawal symptoms from marijuana certainty calls into question the street wisdom that pot isn’t (physically) addicting.