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Is there a real solution to combat the hate filled and violent cesspool the internet has become today?

by dwags 8y ago

some_account 8y ago
Yeah. But it's not a tech solution. Society needs to change in the opposite direction we are going, but that will not happen. :)
- dwags 8y ago
  apple watch injects soma when it senses our hatred flowing
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tqkxzugoaupvwqr 8y ago
One possible solution: Make the providers of web services liable for what their users post so they can’t ignore the problem for that sweet ad revenue. Possible downside: Providers become overly cautious and pro-actively delete more than necessary. Possible upside: Lots and lots of small, tight-knit (and healthy) communities crop up because Twitter, Tumblr & Co. die.
- hh3k0 8y ago
  > Possible downside: Providers become overly cautious and pro-actively delete more than necessary. Exactly what happened in Germany when the new social media hate speech law (Netzwerkdurchsetzungsgesetz) was introduced. > He said that the NetzDG incentivizes social-media companies to “delete in doubt”—to remove any content that seems like it might be illegal […] The law leaves it up to companies like Facebook and Twitter, with their armies of moderators newly installed in Germany, to decide within 24 hours whether a post is “manifestly” illegal and remove it—a decision that would ordinarily take weeks in a German court. More: https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/05/germany-facebook-afd/560435/ https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/05/ge...
drasticmeasures 8y ago
Is there a real solution to combat the hate filled and violent cesspool the internet has become today? A possible solution is to outlaw what fundamentally makes the Internet "free" and "open", destroying much of the good (and bad) things that were built on those foundations. Now that the technological Pandora's Box has been open, even such wanton destruction would require a delicate balance between restricting the tech and letting its benefits continue to shine through for the continuation of the state and the society under its umbrella; after all, all states (even allied ones) exist in competition with each other, and to weaken one's tech could mean to weaken that state or even ease its death. I hope someone knows another way to solve the problem or to satisfactorily ameliorate it. The nukes finally fell -- but now I can see the stars at night.
- krapp 8y ago
  It doesn't need to be solved or ameliorated. The internet is a reflection of humanity, and the truest reflection because, out of all other forms of media, the image it presents isn't entirely manufactured or mediated by corporations (although they are trying.) The internet has only become a "cesspool" because it's matured as a platform and gained enough critical mass that it can accurately reflect the noxious rat-king that is the human zeitgeist. But the same platform that shows us the worst of ourselves can also reflect the best of ourselves, and the same freedom that allows the vile and the profane allows the creative, intellectual and profound. The answer isn't to change the web, but to change ourselves. Hate is as much of a problem as it is on the internet because hate is accepted in the real world. Censoring the web won't solve that. Or maybe go all the way in the other direction and have some kind of Psycho-Pass scenario where AI builds a "crime coefficient" out of a profile of your online and offline activities and estimates your emotional stability and moral alignment based on cameras monitoring your irises and skin as you surf the web, and if your hue gets too red, someone shoots you with a gun.
  - drasticmeasures 8y ago
    It is infinitely easier to pass a law than to change humanity. Personally, I accept the Internet as it is.
scarejunba 8y ago
Yes, the filter bubble. My Internet is fine.

Is there a real solution to combat the hate filled and violent cesspool the internet has become today?

by dwags 8y ago

Is there a real solution to combat the hate filled and violent cesspool the internet has become today?

Yeah. But it's not a tech solution. Society needs to change in the opposite direction we are going, but that will not happen. :)

dwags 8y ago
apple watch injects soma when it senses our hatred flowing

deleted 8y ago

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tqkxzugoaupvwqr 8y ago

One possible solution: Make the providers of web services liable for what their users post so they can’t ignore the problem for that sweet ad revenue. Possible downside: Providers become overly cautious and pro-actively delete more than necessary. Possible upside: Lots and lots of small, tight-knit (and healthy) communities crop up because Twitter, Tumblr & Co. die.

hh3k0 8y ago
> Possible downside: Providers become overly cautious and pro-actively delete more than necessary. Exactly what happened in Germany when the new social media hate speech law (Netzwerkdurchsetzungsgesetz) was introduced. > He said that the NetzDG incentivizes social-media companies to “delete in doubt”—to remove any content that seems like it might be illegal […] The law leaves it up to companies like Facebook and Twitter, with their armies of moderators newly installed in Germany, to decide within 24 hours whether a post is “manifestly” illegal and remove it—a decision that would ordinarily take weeks in a German court. More: https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/05/germany-facebook-afd/560435/ https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/05/ge...

drasticmeasures 8y ago

Is there a real solution to combat the hate filled and violent cesspool the internet has become today? A possible solution is to outlaw what fundamentally makes the Internet "free" and "open", destroying much of the good (and bad) things that were built on those foundations. Now that the technological Pandora's Box has been open, even such wanton destruction would require a delicate balance between restricting the tech and letting its benefits continue to shine through for the continuation of the state and the society under its umbrella; after all, all states (even allied ones) exist in competition with each other, and to weaken one's tech could mean to weaken that state or even ease its death. I hope someone knows another way to solve the problem or to satisfactorily ameliorate it. The nukes finally fell -- but now I can see the stars at night.

krapp 8y ago
It doesn't need to be solved or ameliorated. The internet is a reflection of humanity, and the truest reflection because, out of all other forms of media, the image it presents isn't entirely manufactured or mediated by corporations (although they are trying.) The internet has only become a "cesspool" because it's matured as a platform and gained enough critical mass that it can accurately reflect the noxious rat-king that is the human zeitgeist. But the same platform that shows us the worst of ourselves can also reflect the best of ourselves, and the same freedom that allows the vile and the profane allows the creative, intellectual and profound. The answer isn't to change the web, but to change ourselves. Hate is as much of a problem as it is on the internet because hate is accepted in the real world. Censoring the web won't solve that. Or maybe go all the way in the other direction and have some kind of Psycho-Pass scenario where AI builds a "crime coefficient" out of a profile of your online and offline activities and estimates your emotional stability and moral alignment based on cameras monitoring your irises and skin as you surf the web, and if your hue gets too red, someone shoots you with a gun.
- drasticmeasures 8y ago
  It is infinitely easier to pass a law than to change humanity. Personally, I accept the Internet as it is.

scarejunba 8y ago

Yes, the filter bubble. My Internet is fine.