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I would like them to rebuild the Macbook Pro from the ground up. It's a much more critical element in my life. If they keep producing inferior notebook hardwa

by crsv 8y ago

I would like them to rebuild the Macbook Pro from the ground up. It's a much more critical element in my life. If they keep producing inferior notebook hardware, I'll change platforms. If I change platforms, I'm less tied to macOS and iOS, if i'm less tied to iOS I'm more likely to change to some other platform. If I change to some other platform, it won't matter if they made Maps useful or not, they'll have lost me because of a more important element in the ecosystem failed me.

coob 8y ago
Do you think the same engineers working on Maps are the ones designing the next MacBook Pro?
27182818284 8y ago
I wonder how many Apple engineers read HN--like is it rare or fairly often. Pretty much every Apple related thread has comments about the MacBook line suffering. Heck, I've been one of those complainers. I think the MacBook Pro was the best circa late 2012-2013. If my current MacBook Pro dies, my replacement won't be another Mac like it has been. I'll sadly have to jump ship for a while.
- ecshafer 8y ago
  I imagine many apple software engineers read hacker news. I don't think hacker news is as popular with the computer engineering crowd though, but I would wager there is a decent amount of them that still reads it. But the apple designers, product owners, and other people that have a lot more say on the direction of a product probably don't read it at all.
mikestew 8y ago
I would like them to rebuild the Macbook Pro from the ground up. I think you posted in the wrong thread. This one is about Apple Maps.
5874-4b22-a4e0 8y ago
This & please replace the keyboard, touchpad (bottom half) with full retina touchscreen, dual graphics, bezeless, fanless, and add in apple pencil with a laser, microphone, and twisting/push in eraser (for presentations).
gigatexal 8y ago
The hardware could not be updated for years and I would still use the Mac because OS X is just so damn useful for me. The SSDs alone are so fast and the design is amazing. The keyboard is shit and ram could be improved but the OS is awesome, well only because of brew
arthurofbabylon 8y ago
Oh, you think Apple only has 30 engineers and that they have to choose between the MacBook Pro and Maps? They don't. Apple is trying ver very hard, and very intelligently, to build both platforms optimally. Please consider the quality of your comment before you post it, plus its relevance to the topic. I, like many, rely on HN for high-quality news and high-quality perspectives on those topics. I'm frankly more and more dissuaded by low-quality, hardly-on-topic comments like yours. You appear to enjoy co-opting the topic to gripe about the MacBook Pro. Please do that somewhere else.
- 762236 8y ago
  The parent's post was fine and relevant. Yours is self referential.
- crsv 8y ago
  Well that's just like... your opinion man. I, like many apparently (judging from the activity on the thread), feel like the commentary around communication involving commitment to different technologies feels misaligned, and this seems like an example of one. I felt like this perspective was fair game for the discussion. I can empathize with your desire to have explicitly defined and targeted discussions that meet your individual needs, I get how that would be a wonderful thing, but I politely decline your request to take my thoughts elsewhere. You can certainly get more engaged with the community and earn enough Karma to downvote discussions that lack value in your eyes, that's completely reasonable.
vaishaksuresh 8y ago
Have some perspective man! in the bigger scheme of things, one user does not matter to Apple. Buy what works for you.
navidfarhadi 8y ago
While I think there is a 0% chance we will see a Macbook Pro redesign similar to the 2013-2015 15" rMBP that is so coveted by a lot of devs, I would certainly love it if Apple released a proper mobile workstation (which will not happen). If Apple released a mobile workstation with the same (or similar) form factor as the 2015 15" rMBP with the same keyboard (and obviously get rid of the touch bar), same 99.5 Wh battery, same port selection (except replace TB2 ports with TB3), same Magsafe charging port, updated internals with non-proprietary, non-soldered RAM, SSD, and wireless card, I would pay whatever the hell they would want. It won't happen, but a man can dream.

by crsv 8y ago

coob 8y ago

Do you think the same engineers working on Maps are the ones designing the next MacBook Pro?

27182818284 8y ago

I wonder how many Apple engineers read HN--like is it rare or fairly often. Pretty much every Apple related thread has comments about the MacBook line suffering. Heck, I've been one of those complainers. I think the MacBook Pro was the best circa late 2012-2013. If my current MacBook Pro dies, my replacement won't be another Mac like it has been. I'll sadly have to jump ship for a while.

ecshafer 8y ago
I imagine many apple software engineers read hacker news. I don't think hacker news is as popular with the computer engineering crowd though, but I would wager there is a decent amount of them that still reads it. But the apple designers, product owners, and other people that have a lot more say on the direction of a product probably don't read it at all.

mikestew 8y ago

I would like them to rebuild the Macbook Pro from the ground up. I think you posted in the wrong thread. This one is about Apple Maps.

5874-4b22-a4e0 8y ago

This & please replace the keyboard, touchpad (bottom half) with full retina touchscreen, dual graphics, bezeless, fanless, and add in apple pencil with a laser, microphone, and twisting/push in eraser (for presentations).

gigatexal 8y ago

The hardware could not be updated for years and I would still use the Mac because OS X is just so damn useful for me. The SSDs alone are so fast and the design is amazing. The keyboard is shit and ram could be improved but the OS is awesome, well only because of brew

arthurofbabylon 8y ago

Oh, you think Apple only has 30 engineers and that they have to choose between the MacBook Pro and Maps? They don't. Apple is trying ver very hard, and very intelligently, to build both platforms optimally. Please consider the quality of your comment before you post it, plus its relevance to the topic. I, like many, rely on HN for high-quality news and high-quality perspectives on those topics. I'm frankly more and more dissuaded by low-quality, hardly-on-topic comments like yours. You appear to enjoy co-opting the topic to gripe about the MacBook Pro. Please do that somewhere else.

762236 8y ago
The parent's post was fine and relevant. Yours is self referential.
crsv 8y ago
Well that's just like... your opinion man. I, like many apparently (judging from the activity on the thread), feel like the commentary around communication involving commitment to different technologies feels misaligned, and this seems like an example of one. I felt like this perspective was fair game for the discussion. I can empathize with your desire to have explicitly defined and targeted discussions that meet your individual needs, I get how that would be a wonderful thing, but I politely decline your request to take my thoughts elsewhere. You can certainly get more engaged with the community and earn enough Karma to downvote discussions that lack value in your eyes, that's completely reasonable.

vaishaksuresh 8y ago

Have some perspective man! in the bigger scheme of things, one user does not matter to Apple. Buy what works for you.

navidfarhadi 8y ago

While I think there is a 0% chance we will see a Macbook Pro redesign similar to the 2013-2015 15" rMBP that is so coveted by a lot of devs, I would certainly love it if Apple released a proper mobile workstation (which will not happen). If Apple released a mobile workstation with the same (or similar) form factor as the 2015 15" rMBP with the same keyboard (and obviously get rid of the touch bar), same 99.5 Wh battery, same port selection (except replace TB2 ports with TB3), same Magsafe charging port, updated internals with non-proprietary, non-soldered RAM, SSD, and wireless card, I would pay whatever the hell they would want. It won't happen, but a man can dream.