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Naah.. The government will just require your unique citizen identifier in the bottom 64 bits. You won't be able to sign up for an ISP or a cell phone or any ot

Naah.. The government will just require your unique citizen identifier in the bottom 64 bits. You won't be able to sign up for an ISP or a cell phone or any other connected device without it. Why do you think they made the address space so absurdly huge?

derefr 16y ago
Who is this "the government?" In fact, I heard somewhere that the government of any arbitrary spammer is just as likely as not to be a whole different government!
- Groxx 16y ago
  Clearly the narrator is referring to that meta-governing-body, The Government. You know, the one all the conspiracy theorists never see, because it's OMG REAL, and therefore not a conspiracy. Narrators, however, have outside knowledge of the system they narrate, so they would be in a position to know of such a system.
  - narrator 16y ago
    Ok, it's a paranoid theory for now but I couldn't think of any other possible reason for such a large address space besides being permanent unique identifcation of clients, like a mac address. The bandwidth wasted on sending those addresses around multiplied by every packet on the internet seems ridiculously wastefull otherwise. For instance, there will probably never be 2^128 packets created and sent on the internet between now and the heat death of the universe.
    - Groxx 16y ago
      Wasn't meaning to shoot down the paranoia, just having fun with / at your username, as I saw the potential for fun :) It's certainly excessive, but more layers = more efficient routing, and I'd assume they don't want to go through all this again in a mere 1000 years when we're populating 5 planets, everyone has 100+ network connected devices, and data centers have billions. And everyone tweets.
      - narrator 16y ago
        You don't understand how large 2^128 is do you? Let's quit all this handwavy crap about how that's a nice big number and look at how absurdly big it is. The number of seconds since the universe started is 13.75 billion * 86400 * 365 = 4.3 x 10 ^ 17 seconds. U.S Internet traffic was 18 exabytes (1 exabyte=10^18 bytes) a year, so let's just say that that we are sending 18 exabytes a second since the beginning of the universe and we are counting each byte. Yes, each set of 8 1s and 0s. How many is that? 4.3 x 10 ^17 * 18 * 10^18 = 7.74 * 10 ^36. 2^128= 3.4 + 10 ^ 38 / (7.74 * 10^36 ) =~ 43. So you could have a different ip address for every byte sent over the Internet, assuming the traffic for the whole year was sent over the course of 1 second for every second in 43 times the current age of the universe.
        Groxx 16y ago
        I understand it perfectly well, yes. I also understand that people like to buy ranges of IP addresses. This much space makes it not only easy, they can sell large ranges nearly indefinitely. Sell + indefinitely = yes, from their viewpoint.

derefr 16y ago

Who is this "the government?" In fact, I heard somewhere that the government of any arbitrary spammer is just as likely as not to be a whole different government!

Groxx 16y ago
Clearly the narrator is referring to that meta-governing-body, The Government. You know, the one all the conspiracy theorists never see, because it's OMG REAL, and therefore not a conspiracy. Narrators, however, have outside knowledge of the system they narrate, so they would be in a position to know of such a system.
- narrator 16y ago
  Ok, it's a paranoid theory for now but I couldn't think of any other possible reason for such a large address space besides being permanent unique identifcation of clients, like a mac address. The bandwidth wasted on sending those addresses around multiplied by every packet on the internet seems ridiculously wastefull otherwise. For instance, there will probably never be 2^128 packets created and sent on the internet between now and the heat death of the universe.
  - Groxx 16y ago
    Wasn't meaning to shoot down the paranoia, just having fun with / at your username, as I saw the potential for fun :) It's certainly excessive, but more layers = more efficient routing, and I'd assume they don't want to go through all this again in a mere 1000 years when we're populating 5 planets, everyone has 100+ network connected devices, and data centers have billions. And everyone tweets.
    - narrator 16y ago
      You don't understand how large 2^128 is do you? Let's quit all this handwavy crap about how that's a nice big number and look at how absurdly big it is. The number of seconds since the universe started is 13.75 billion * 86400 * 365 = 4.3 x 10 ^ 17 seconds. U.S Internet traffic was 18 exabytes (1 exabyte=10^18 bytes) a year, so let's just say that that we are sending 18 exabytes a second since the beginning of the universe and we are counting each byte. Yes, each set of 8 1s and 0s. How many is that? 4.3 x 10 ^17 * 18 * 10^18 = 7.74 * 10 ^36. 2^128= 3.4 + 10 ^ 38 / (7.74 * 10^36 ) =~ 43. So you could have a different ip address for every byte sent over the Internet, assuming the traffic for the whole year was sent over the course of 1 second for every second in 43 times the current age of the universe.
      - Groxx 16y ago
        I understand it perfectly well, yes. I also understand that people like to buy ranges of IP addresses. This much space makes it not only easy, they can sell large ranges nearly indefinitely. Sell + indefinitely = yes, from their viewpoint.