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I find this really depressing, that he is forced to abandon a lifestyle that he himself choose. I can't help but think of Ted Kaczynski who wrote along the line

I find this really depressing, that he is forced to abandon a lifestyle that he himself choose. I can't help but think of Ted Kaczynski who wrote along the lines that we are cogs in the social machine deprived of dignity and autonomy. The industrial society and its future: http://editions-hache.com/essais/pdf/kaczynski2.pdf http://editions-hache.com/essais/pdf/kaczynski2.pdf

mihaifm 8y ago
Yea, I don't understand that either. They forced him to hospital supposedly for his own good, but it's obvious that it will do him more harm than good. Depression would probably sink in, he might even get sick faster due to exposure to humans after all these years. He just wanted to die there, why not just let him be...
ekianjo 8y ago
The attack on individual freedom knows no limits unfortunately. The authorities should have nothing to do with this, unless you actually ask for their help.
Rainymood 8y ago
The Netflix "documentary" (Manhunt: Unabomber) is a great watch. While it's a bit dramatised it's still a good (and short 9eps) watch.
- Krasnol 8y ago
  Try this ARTE documentary "The Net": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIfc5KpomGQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIfc5KpomGQ It goes deeper, features Kaczynski, some Silicone Valley elites and Heinz von Foerster.
- amorphid 8y ago
  I liked it, too. I didn't expect to feel anything for Ted's side of the story, but I felt the series did a good job of making him come across as a human being (who just happens to blow people up by sending them bombs in the mail).
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timwaagh 8y ago
please read about his victims as well, https://www.nytimes.com/1996/04/04/us/unabomber-s-track-victims-places-where-bombs-killed-day-for-memories-nervous.html https://www.nytimes.com/1996/04/04/us/unabomber-s-track-vict...
- danieka 8y ago
  I don’t agree with his methods. I might agree with his conclusions regarding modern society. Regardless, it might be good to preface any mention of him by also mentioning what he did and who he hurt.
  - ravenstine 8y ago
    I second this. What Kaczynski did was terrible, but he was obviously very intelligent and highly observant. Upon reading Industrial Society and its Future, it was hard for me to deny the validity(note the difference between validity and soundness) of many of his arguments. I would say it's worth reading if the reader can mentally-divorce ideas from their thinkers, and it's a fascinating read at that.
    - Nasrudith 8y ago
      Kaczynski's lack a sense of history or worse a romanticized version of it. People were less free in pre-industrial society and more controlled not less. Despite the depictions it is important to remember that nature does not give a damn about you and life is accordingly harsh because of it.
      - ravenstine 8y ago
        That's true.
      - opportune 8y ago
        Depends on what you mean by pre-industrial. I think that what you say is true for most of recorded history, but perhaps not for the paleolithic era. That was probably peak human freedom, at least in my opinion
qpooqpoo 8y ago
I agree. I recommend that you read Kaczynski's two books: "Technological Slavery" (2010) and "Anti-Tech Revolution"(2016). The second book is truly extraordinary and insightful. Here's a review by MIT: "Anti-Tech Revolution: Why and How is Kaczynski’s well-reasoned, cohesive composition about how revolutionary groups should approach our mercurial future….. I recommend that you read this compelling perspective on how we can frame our struggles in a technological society." -- The Tech, MIT's oldest and largest newspaper

mihaifm 8y ago

Yea, I don't understand that either. They forced him to hospital supposedly for his own good, but it's obvious that it will do him more harm than good. Depression would probably sink in, he might even get sick faster due to exposure to humans after all these years. He just wanted to die there, why not just let him be...

ekianjo 8y ago

The attack on individual freedom knows no limits unfortunately. The authorities should have nothing to do with this, unless you actually ask for their help.

Rainymood 8y ago

The Netflix "documentary" (Manhunt: Unabomber) is a great watch. While it's a bit dramatised it's still a good (and short 9eps) watch.

Krasnol 8y ago
Try this ARTE documentary "The Net": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIfc5KpomGQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIfc5KpomGQ It goes deeper, features Kaczynski, some Silicone Valley elites and Heinz von Foerster.
amorphid 8y ago
I liked it, too. I didn't expect to feel anything for Ted's side of the story, but I felt the series did a good job of making him come across as a human being (who just happens to blow people up by sending them bombs in the mail).
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timwaagh 8y ago

please read about his victims as well, https://www.nytimes.com/1996/04/04/us/unabomber-s-track-victims-places-where-bombs-killed-day-for-memories-nervous.html https://www.nytimes.com/1996/04/04/us/unabomber-s-track-vict...

danieka 8y ago
I don’t agree with his methods. I might agree with his conclusions regarding modern society. Regardless, it might be good to preface any mention of him by also mentioning what he did and who he hurt.
- ravenstine 8y ago
  I second this. What Kaczynski did was terrible, but he was obviously very intelligent and highly observant. Upon reading Industrial Society and its Future, it was hard for me to deny the validity(note the difference between validity and soundness) of many of his arguments. I would say it's worth reading if the reader can mentally-divorce ideas from their thinkers, and it's a fascinating read at that.
  - Nasrudith 8y ago
    Kaczynski's lack a sense of history or worse a romanticized version of it. People were less free in pre-industrial society and more controlled not less. Despite the depictions it is important to remember that nature does not give a damn about you and life is accordingly harsh because of it.
    - ravenstine 8y ago
      That's true.
    - opportune 8y ago
      Depends on what you mean by pre-industrial. I think that what you say is true for most of recorded history, but perhaps not for the paleolithic era. That was probably peak human freedom, at least in my opinion

qpooqpoo 8y ago

I agree. I recommend that you read Kaczynski's two books: "Technological Slavery" (2010) and "Anti-Tech Revolution"(2016). The second book is truly extraordinary and insightful. Here's a review by MIT: "Anti-Tech Revolution: Why and How is Kaczynski’s well-reasoned, cohesive composition about how revolutionary groups should approach our mercurial future….. I recommend that you read this compelling perspective on how we can frame our struggles in a technological society." -- The Tech, MIT's oldest and largest newspaper