I mean... it's all relative, right? And exponentially relative. I know people who I climb ten times harder than, and people who climb ten times harder than me..

I mean... it's all relative, right? And exponentially relative. I know people who I climb ten times harder than, and people who climb ten times harder than me... and then Alex climbs 10 times harder than those people. I climbed outdoors 4 days a week in evenings all through grad school (7 years) when I lived near wonderful rocks and that's when I got to 5.12 . Now I live in a big city, spend 60 hrs a week at the office, and am getting weak.