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Idiocy. The motive is to hamstring some of our most innovative companies which by itself is baffling and of course the collateral damage is the extra overhead a
by sqdbps 8y ago
Idiocy. The motive is to hamstring some of our most innovative companies which by itself is baffling and of course the collateral damage is the extra overhead and lawyers inflicted on all businesses big and small.
The desire to imitate the euros in their efforts in making it as hard as possible for our companies to operate there is beyond stupid.
California ballot initiatives like all referendums must be eradicated and the fact that a california real estate developer (the source of all that is wrong in the state) straight after killing recent zoning reform is using a ballot initiative to blackmail the assembly into passing this law makes it worse.
- x0x0 8y agoYou clearly haven't read the bill. Guess how I can tell? tip: company has to either (1) make more than $25m/year, or (2) buy or sell personal information of 50k+ consumers/devices; (3) make 50% of rev from selling personal data to be subject. ps -- passing laws popular with constituents is not exactly a reasonable definition of "blackmail."
- sqdbps 8y agoHow do they define what "selling personal data" means? Does that mean the the law affects equifax and not facebook for example? and what if a company which collects data is sold to another company or its assets were sold during bankruptcy does that count as selling personal data?
- x0x0 8y agohttps://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB375 https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtm...
- pteredactyl 8y agoThis sounds reasonable. Will you post a link to the legislation?
- x0x0 8y agosee 1798.140 https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB375 https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtm...
- pteredactyl 8y agoThanks!
- Rjevski 8y ago> most innovative companies If that innovation is about stalking people online & offline to serve them ads then no thanks.
- Mirioron 8y agoSure hope you don't use Google in your life.
- Rjevski 8y agoDuckDuckGo is now good enough that I only use Google services a few times a day as a fallback. Not saying I’m happy with that (I wish I could just pay Google a fair price and trust them not to stalk me) but I don’t have much choice I’m afraid.
- pmoriarty 8y agoThe abuse goes much further than merely serving people ads. Harassment, intimidation, stalking, identity theft, profiling, targeting based on political opinions or interests, blackmail, evisceration of privacy, and subversion of democracy are all enabled by such "innovation". As more people become victims of these, and such abuses are publicized, the opposition to such surveillance will grow.
- darawk 8y agoI hear this sentiment expressed a lot, but I rarely see anyone actually articulate their rationale. What do you think the downsides of that are?
- ahelwer 8y agoI find in myself a very human desire to not have every private action subject to registration & scrutiny by unknown entities. No further justification is needed.
- darawk 8y agoI think quite a bit further justification is needed. That's why I asked the question. You're proposing companies have their rights circumscribed. You need to justify that.
- s73v3r_ 8y ago"The motive is to hamstring some of our most innovative companies" What's innovative about sucking up user data and selling it to advertisers? Wouldn't it be far more innovative to come up with something new, something that respects user privacy?
- pteredactyl 8y agoHave you read the actual legislation? Or is that what you think it is?
- s73v3r_ 8y agoI have. Much like the GDPR, it's some great ideas that are being slandered by a bunch of people who are deeply invested in selling user data.
- pteredactyl 8y agoInteresting. Could you elaborate? Is the slander in the press?
- s73v3r_ 8y ago"California ballot initiatives like all referendums must be eradicated" Both medicinal and recreational marijuana were passed via ballot initiative.
- dingo_bat 8y agoThat adds to the argument for "eradication"
- colejohnson66 8y agoDepending on who you ask, that could be a bad thing.
- checkyoursudo 8y agoLiterally what a ballot initiative or referendum is.
- 40four 8y agoYeah, because the "War on drugs" had been such an astounding success. eye roll
- pteredactyl 8y agoI don't know why this dissenting opinion is being downvoted into oblivion. I have no reason to trust the government or its judgement. So I don't know why people think this is necessarily great news. Now we'll have to get more green lights from .gov. And that is costly. And that is why business are tempted to leave CA. Anyone have a link to the actual legislature?
- dd36 8y agoYou can still opt in... If businesses die because people would’ve never opted-in in the first place, what was the innovation?
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