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Cheaper phones simply only have space for one or two 21st century apps like Uber, Lyft, or Facebook. Saying those apps are bloated is misleading they are just b

Cheaper phones simply only have space for one or two 21st century apps like Uber, Lyft, or Facebook. Saying those apps are bloated is misleading they are just built for newer Android's/iPhones. And lite apps are aimed at cheaper phones.

foepys 8y ago
"21st century app" has to be the most bullshit term I have heard this week. You can build very small apps with a lot of features if you want. But when you keep pushing JavaScript technology into stuff just to rebuild what is already available on the platform (just in an "uncool" way), you end up with multiple almost 300 MB apps to share some images and text.
- yathern 8y ago
  > But when you keep pushing JavaScript technology into stuff... you end up with multiple almost 300 MB apps to share some images and text I would be hesitant to solely Javascript for the bloat of Instagram, and related apps. On phones, typically the WebView is used - not like using Electron where chromium + v8 is packaged with each application. A Cordova application can easily be in the single-digit MB range. Facebook is a native app - and is 300MB+ in size. A breakdown is available here: https://blog.timac.org/2017/0410-analysis-of-the-facebook-app-for-ios-v-87-0/ https://blog.timac.org/2017/0410-analysis-of-the-facebook-ap... Mostly it comes down to the fact that app size is not a prioritization.
  - fatcatdog 8y ago
    Agreed, expensive phones can have lots of big sized apps
- pjc50 8y ago
  Compare with ""20th century apps""; Apollo went to the moon with 36kb (kilowords) ROM, now it takes a thousand times that to hail a taxi. (A lot of it is images, but still you have to wonder..)
  - chosenbreed 8y ago
    Hilarious!
AHTERIX5000 8y ago
What exactly is the amazing new experience that "21st century app" can offer that something running on 512 MB RAM phone cannot?
nitwit005 8y ago
My phone is vastly more powerful than entire racks full of machines used to be. The idea that it's reasonable for it to barely be able to handle an app for getting a taxi is just ridiculous. It's just bloated.

foepys 8y ago

"21st century app" has to be the most bullshit term I have heard this week. You can build very small apps with a lot of features if you want. But when you keep pushing JavaScript technology into stuff just to rebuild what is already available on the platform (just in an "uncool" way), you end up with multiple almost 300 MB apps to share some images and text.

yathern 8y ago
> But when you keep pushing JavaScript technology into stuff... you end up with multiple almost 300 MB apps to share some images and text I would be hesitant to solely Javascript for the bloat of Instagram, and related apps. On phones, typically the WebView is used - not like using Electron where chromium + v8 is packaged with each application. A Cordova application can easily be in the single-digit MB range. Facebook is a native app - and is 300MB+ in size. A breakdown is available here: https://blog.timac.org/2017/0410-analysis-of-the-facebook-app-for-ios-v-87-0/ https://blog.timac.org/2017/0410-analysis-of-the-facebook-ap... Mostly it comes down to the fact that app size is not a prioritization.
- fatcatdog 8y ago
  Agreed, expensive phones can have lots of big sized apps
pjc50 8y ago
Compare with ""20th century apps""; Apollo went to the moon with 36kb (kilowords) ROM, now it takes a thousand times that to hail a taxi. (A lot of it is images, but still you have to wonder..)
- chosenbreed 8y ago
  Hilarious!

AHTERIX5000 8y ago

What exactly is the amazing new experience that "21st century app" can offer that something running on 512 MB RAM phone cannot?

nitwit005 8y ago

My phone is vastly more powerful than entire racks full of machines used to be. The idea that it's reasonable for it to barely be able to handle an app for getting a taxi is just ridiculous. It's just bloated.