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This more or less describes every medium-sized U.S. city, from Cincinnati to Nashville to Phoenix to Pittsburgh to St. Louis to Cleveland and so on. There may

This more or less describes every medium-sized U.S. city, from Cincinnati to Nashville to Phoenix to Pittsburgh to St. Louis to Cleveland and so on. There may be specific things you care more about that one city might have more of than the others, but, in general, all cities have this stuff (and it's a tragedy of human flourishing that people on the coasts think they don't).

parsnips 8y ago
Not to mention the plethora of 100k sized cities that too have all of these things. Grass is greener syndrome.
- lmm 8y ago
  Certainly not the case for a typical 100k-sized city, unless my hometown is unusually badly off. One and a half theatres, no opera house at all, an MtG community but nothing for anything smaller, most bands didn't bother going there on their tours.
  - dionidium 8y ago
    I don't know about 100k. That seems small. I'm talking about metros of well over a million people. But, also, don't get confused by looking only at the statistics for core cities. People look at, say, St. Louis, see that it has only 300k people, and stop there. But that's a wildly misleading number that's really more of a reflection of the fact that lots of people in the U.S. live in what are called "suburbs," even if those "suburbs" are actually still part of the urban core. The St. Louis metro has 2.8 million people. 1.3 million of those people live in the core, urban city/county. That 300k number isn't useful at all. It's based on silly, irrelevant historical border-drawing. The same can be said for most Rust Belt cities.
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magduf 8y ago
All these cities are car-centric. You cannot reasonably get around there on bicycle or public transit.
- dionidium 8y ago
  That's basically true as a default state. But you can make it work if it's something you care about. Most of those cities have at least one walkable neighborhood that's (more or less) car-optional. I think you'd still want to own a car for those things that can't be accomplished without one, but you could live most of your daily life on foot. I used to live here, for example: https://goo.gl/maps/RAYSkfs4Dtn https://goo.gl/maps/RAYSkfs4Dtn That's two blocks from a Whole Foods, walking to everything else you'd need, and 4 blocks from the light rail, which can take you to each of the region's two largest employment centers (Downtown and Clayton), its two largest universities, and the airport.

parsnips 8y ago

Not to mention the plethora of 100k sized cities that too have all of these things. Grass is greener syndrome.

lmm 8y ago
Certainly not the case for a typical 100k-sized city, unless my hometown is unusually badly off. One and a half theatres, no opera house at all, an MtG community but nothing for anything smaller, most bands didn't bother going there on their tours.
- dionidium 8y ago
  I don't know about 100k. That seems small. I'm talking about metros of well over a million people. But, also, don't get confused by looking only at the statistics for core cities. People look at, say, St. Louis, see that it has only 300k people, and stop there. But that's a wildly misleading number that's really more of a reflection of the fact that lots of people in the U.S. live in what are called "suburbs," even if those "suburbs" are actually still part of the urban core. The St. Louis metro has 2.8 million people. 1.3 million of those people live in the core, urban city/county. That 300k number isn't useful at all. It's based on silly, irrelevant historical border-drawing. The same can be said for most Rust Belt cities.
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magduf 8y ago

All these cities are car-centric. You cannot reasonably get around there on bicycle or public transit.

dionidium 8y ago
That's basically true as a default state. But you can make it work if it's something you care about. Most of those cities have at least one walkable neighborhood that's (more or less) car-optional. I think you'd still want to own a car for those things that can't be accomplished without one, but you could live most of your daily life on foot. I used to live here, for example: https://goo.gl/maps/RAYSkfs4Dtn https://goo.gl/maps/RAYSkfs4Dtn That's two blocks from a Whole Foods, walking to everything else you'd need, and 4 blocks from the light rail, which can take you to each of the region's two largest employment centers (Downtown and Clayton), its two largest universities, and the airport.