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Your view sounds like it is based on stereo types and not reality. I mean bicycling.com has a list of the top 50 bicycling cities in the US. Raleigh has an Op

Your view sounds like it is based on stereo types and not reality. I mean bicycling.com has a list of the top 50 bicycling cities in the US. Raleigh has an Opera, several theaters, a symphony. It does not lack for cultural events.

flanban 8y ago
My view is based on Panasonic
barry-cotter 8y ago
I have been to the US, New York, New Jersey and Florida. Given the length and density of settlement in the first two there’s probably not a more bicycle hospitable part of the US. I would be terrified to cycle there. Bicycling magazine’s website supports your contention less than you might imagine. It’s for hobbyists, people who bike for exercise and who tour. Most Europeans who cycle do so as a mode of transport, not recreation. And just as you will not find articles on the best places to find good pasta in Italy, or croissants in France you’re not going to find a list of the most bike friendly cities in Germany. By American standards they’re all really, really bike friendly. And that’s totally unremarkable, just like cities built for the convenience of people in cars are normal in the US. I’m not saying Raleigh is a cultural wasteland. I’m sure it has much to recommend it but to compare it to Berlin? Really? Berlin has almost eight times the population and has many very heavily subsidised national cultural institutions. I’m sure Raleigh has a better live music scene in English. You should travel in Europe some. You would not compare anywhere in Western Europe to the US in terms of bike friendliness if you had.
TheCoelacanth 8y ago
That list is about recreational biking, not about biking as a means of transportation. Look at cities where people commute by bicycle[1] and it is basically just the cities listed plus a bunch of small towns with gigantic university campuses. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._cities_with_most_bicycle_commuters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._cities_with_most_...

flanban 8y ago

My view is based on Panasonic

barry-cotter 8y ago

I have been to the US, New York, New Jersey and Florida. Given the length and density of settlement in the first two there’s probably not a more bicycle hospitable part of the US. I would be terrified to cycle there. Bicycling magazine’s website supports your contention less than you might imagine. It’s for hobbyists, people who bike for exercise and who tour. Most Europeans who cycle do so as a mode of transport, not recreation. And just as you will not find articles on the best places to find good pasta in Italy, or croissants in France you’re not going to find a list of the most bike friendly cities in Germany. By American standards they’re all really, really bike friendly. And that’s totally unremarkable, just like cities built for the convenience of people in cars are normal in the US. I’m not saying Raleigh is a cultural wasteland. I’m sure it has much to recommend it but to compare it to Berlin? Really? Berlin has almost eight times the population and has many very heavily subsidised national cultural institutions. I’m sure Raleigh has a better live music scene in English. You should travel in Europe some. You would not compare anywhere in Western Europe to the US in terms of bike friendliness if you had.

TheCoelacanth 8y ago

That list is about recreational biking, not about biking as a means of transportation. Look at cities where people commute by bicycle[1] and it is basically just the cities listed plus a bunch of small towns with gigantic university campuses. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._cities_with_most_bicycle_commuters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._cities_with_most_...