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There can be a huge number. I mean look at Baltimore for example. Median home price is $260k and salaries for engineers range anywhere from $60k - $250k. The

There can be a huge number. I mean look at Baltimore for example. Median home price is $260k and salaries for engineers range anywhere from $60k - $250k. There was a post here the other day about how Grand Rapids had some huge amount of tech companies. Many towns with Universities are built for biking and walking and also have strong presence of companies looking for engineers.

CPLX 8y ago
There are a couple minor differences in culture, food, the arts, and nightlife between Berlin and Grand Rapids.
- dsfyu404ed 8y ago
  A medium city surrounded by BFE is going to have vastly better options for outdoor recreation. A medium or large city in a major metropolitan area will have better options for indoor recreation. I'd personally take the city surrounded by BFE if given the choice (actually, I'd rather live in BFE and commute into the medium city).
  - handsomechad 8y ago
    whats bfe??
    - grzm 8y ago
      Bum Fuck, Egypt https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/13372/what-is-the-etymology-of-bfe https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/13372/what-is-th...
- RightMillennial 8y ago
  There's definitely going to be cultural differences since Grand Rapids is in west Michigan and not eastern Germany. The food's decent, and there are a few art festivals, museums, venues and arenas. Lansing is an hour away which has more of the same. Holland is a little closer and on Lake Michigan. Chicago is only a couple hours away if you're yearning for the big city. I can't speak much about the night life but last I knew we had multiple bars and clubs if that's your thing. The only public transportation is the Rapid (bus system).
flanban 8y ago
Those numbers might be leading you a bit astray. I've lived in Baltimore for 5 years(to escape DC), but I'd never work in Baltimore. I came here to because it isn't technically advanced. Beyond that it's packed to the brim with dope fiends. You've gotta be in third world don't get robbed mode 100% of the time, there are 17k abandoned townhouses in Baltimore, garbage everywhere, but the rent is super cheap if that's what you're into. I've never been to Grand Rapids. If all goes to plan it'll stay that way. Berlin is one the most incredible cities on earth right now.
- pmorici 8y ago
  Nonsense, Baltimore is perfectly nice and it's bad parts are easy to avoid.
maxsilver 8y ago
> There was a post here the other day about how Grand Rapids had some huge amount of tech companies You really have to be careful with those articles -- most of them are basically marketing fluff. Grand Rapids has a good welcoming inclusive, but tiny tech scene. GR is only 'huge' when compared to smaller neighboring cities, which have practically nothing. This isn't a comprehensive measure or anything, but just for a quick sense of scale, on Stack Overflow right now Chicago has 79 tech job listings. Seattle has 68. Detroit has 15. Grand Rapids has 2. Grand Rapids isn't even remotely comparable to Detroit, much less any actual tech-focused city. And that's just jobs, ignoring all housing / transportation / cultural amenities and all other quality-of-life differences.

CPLX 8y ago

There are a couple minor differences in culture, food, the arts, and nightlife between Berlin and Grand Rapids.

dsfyu404ed 8y ago
A medium city surrounded by BFE is going to have vastly better options for outdoor recreation. A medium or large city in a major metropolitan area will have better options for indoor recreation. I'd personally take the city surrounded by BFE if given the choice (actually, I'd rather live in BFE and commute into the medium city).
- handsomechad 8y ago
  whats bfe??
  - grzm 8y ago
    Bum Fuck, Egypt https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/13372/what-is-the-etymology-of-bfe https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/13372/what-is-th...
RightMillennial 8y ago
There's definitely going to be cultural differences since Grand Rapids is in west Michigan and not eastern Germany. The food's decent, and there are a few art festivals, museums, venues and arenas. Lansing is an hour away which has more of the same. Holland is a little closer and on Lake Michigan. Chicago is only a couple hours away if you're yearning for the big city. I can't speak much about the night life but last I knew we had multiple bars and clubs if that's your thing. The only public transportation is the Rapid (bus system).

flanban 8y ago

Those numbers might be leading you a bit astray. I've lived in Baltimore for 5 years(to escape DC), but I'd never work in Baltimore. I came here to because it isn't technically advanced. Beyond that it's packed to the brim with dope fiends. You've gotta be in third world don't get robbed mode 100% of the time, there are 17k abandoned townhouses in Baltimore, garbage everywhere, but the rent is super cheap if that's what you're into. I've never been to Grand Rapids. If all goes to plan it'll stay that way. Berlin is one the most incredible cities on earth right now.

pmorici 8y ago
Nonsense, Baltimore is perfectly nice and it's bad parts are easy to avoid.

maxsilver 8y ago

> There was a post here the other day about how Grand Rapids had some huge amount of tech companies You really have to be careful with those articles -- most of them are basically marketing fluff. Grand Rapids has a good welcoming inclusive, but tiny tech scene. GR is only 'huge' when compared to smaller neighboring cities, which have practically nothing. This isn't a comprehensive measure or anything, but just for a quick sense of scale, on Stack Overflow right now Chicago has 79 tech job listings. Seattle has 68. Detroit has 15. Grand Rapids has 2. Grand Rapids isn't even remotely comparable to Detroit, much less any actual tech-focused city. And that's just jobs, ignoring all housing / transportation / cultural amenities and all other quality-of-life differences.