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Apple. This issue is seriously simple. Take the previous design, you know the one from late 2012 to 2015. If you must (sigh), take out the SD card, HDMI, USB

Apple. This issue is seriously simple. Take the previous design, you know the one from late 2012 to 2015. If you must (sigh), take out the SD card, HDMI, USB A, MagSafe and replace with USB-C. I don't know who suggested this, but whatever. Don't add in a touch bar. Don't add in an over sized touchpad. Leave the keyboard alone. The layout of the model is amazing. I purchased a late 2012 in Jan '13. It's been my daily driver for 5 years now, without a single issue and it's an amazing piece of equipment. It allows me to just get on with my work, rather than focusing on the issues with the OS (looking at you Windows 10). Want to make the product much better? Upgrade: - the screen to 4k - the memory to 32GB - the SSD speed and give me options of 1TB and 2TB. - the CPU to the latest i7 and more cores the better. Listen, you can even charge $5k for the privilege. I don't care at this point. My needs for it just working and allowing me to work without the issues of running Windows 10 are the only things that matter to me. ------- Ok, I understand. We are negotiating here. - $6k... - $7k... - $8k... - $9k... - $10k... ? Sure, I'll pay $10k for a PRO laptop. One that lasts 5+ years. I'm happy to depreciate it over a period of time, because for me. It's not an ACCESSORY. It's a workhorse! I really hope someone at apple listens. You guys had an awesome laptop. Then you made it crappy. -------- I'm literally praying to "Lord Jobs" on the other side, that I don't run into any issues for at least another 3 years and Mojave is my last OS it seems. I'm STILL on El Capitan!

tsenkov 8y ago
+1 :) I use the exact same machine and I simply don't want to upgrade it with the current options. I don't even need anything higher resolution (retina is great), honestly. In fact, I don't even need a more performant (or more cores on my) processor (my quad-core i7 works great with everything), or better GPU - all I need is: - 64GB RAM; - 2TB SSD; - better camera.
testplzignore 8y ago
1. Create good product. 2. Gain market share. 3. Gradually make product worse without losing market share. 4. Make product good again with giant price increase. 5. PROFIT! Apple is stuck on step 3. Either they don't know that step 4 exists, or they think they can squeeze more juice out of step 3, or they don't have the technical ability to do step 4.
- throwaway2048 8y ago
  At least they have implemented the second part of step 4...
masklinn 8y ago
> - the screen to 4k If they bump it up (which would be a good idea) they'll likely go 3x (4329 x 2700 on the 15") not 4K. > - the memory to 32GB That's the one I don't see happening. Much of Apple's tradeoffs are about keeping battery life in the face of design stupidity, dropping LPDDR is very unlikely. > - the SSD speed and give me options of 1TB and 2TB. Both options exist (on the 15") and AFAIK Apple has pretty fast SSDs, the main issue with them is that they're soldered not that they're slow.
douglaswlance 8y ago
You can get a 15" old chassis MBP with new components: https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MJLQ2LL/A&step=config# https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MJLQ2... What are you waiting for?
- matchbok 8y ago
  Graphics chip :(
kalleboo 8y ago
I have the 2017 15", and my wishlist is just * Fix the keyboard's reliability * Remove the touchbar * Give us back those last Wh and bump the battery back up to 99 (right under the FAA limit) * Improve the thermals (if this means making the machine thicker, then sure). In summer (with aircon set to 26 C) I can't plug my laptop in to charge and use Xcode without it overheating and throttling. Same issue affected my old 2012 rMBP so it's not a new issue.
michaelcampbell 8y ago
> The layout of the model is amazing. Compared to what's out now, yeah, it's great. But in absolute terms, it's only moderately functional.
pokemongoaway 8y ago
So many have suggested these things... But Apple prefers to only listen to customers it believes are "right customers."
blparker 8y ago
Would also like to see a reversion to using Nvidia GPUs as well.
seanalltogether 8y ago
4K doesn't really make sense, the screen is already 3K at 15", a typical 4K monitor will be 21"- 24" across and 5K would start at 27"

tsenkov 8y ago

+1 :) I use the exact same machine and I simply don't want to upgrade it with the current options. I don't even need anything higher resolution (retina is great), honestly. In fact, I don't even need a more performant (or more cores on my) processor (my quad-core i7 works great with everything), or better GPU - all I need is: - 64GB RAM; - 2TB SSD; - better camera.

testplzignore 8y ago

1. Create good product. 2. Gain market share. 3. Gradually make product worse without losing market share. 4. Make product good again with giant price increase. 5. PROFIT! Apple is stuck on step 3. Either they don't know that step 4 exists, or they think they can squeeze more juice out of step 3, or they don't have the technical ability to do step 4.

throwaway2048 8y ago
At least they have implemented the second part of step 4...

masklinn 8y ago

> - the screen to 4k If they bump it up (which would be a good idea) they'll likely go 3x (4329 x 2700 on the 15") not 4K. > - the memory to 32GB That's the one I don't see happening. Much of Apple's tradeoffs are about keeping battery life in the face of design stupidity, dropping LPDDR is very unlikely. > - the SSD speed and give me options of 1TB and 2TB. Both options exist (on the 15") and AFAIK Apple has pretty fast SSDs, the main issue with them is that they're soldered not that they're slow.

douglaswlance 8y ago

You can get a 15" old chassis MBP with new components: https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MJLQ2LL/A&step=config# https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MJLQ2... What are you waiting for?

matchbok 8y ago
Graphics chip :(

kalleboo 8y ago

I have the 2017 15", and my wishlist is just * Fix the keyboard's reliability * Remove the touchbar * Give us back those last Wh and bump the battery back up to 99 (right under the FAA limit) * Improve the thermals (if this means making the machine thicker, then sure). In summer (with aircon set to 26 C) I can't plug my laptop in to charge and use Xcode without it overheating and throttling. Same issue affected my old 2012 rMBP so it's not a new issue.

michaelcampbell 8y ago

> The layout of the model is amazing. Compared to what's out now, yeah, it's great. But in absolute terms, it's only moderately functional.

pokemongoaway 8y ago

So many have suggested these things... But Apple prefers to only listen to customers it believes are "right customers."

blparker 8y ago

Would also like to see a reversion to using Nvidia GPUs as well.

seanalltogether 8y ago

4K doesn't really make sense, the screen is already 3K at 15", a typical 4K monitor will be 21"- 24" across and 5K would start at 27"