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> give us back USB ports, give us back swappable batteries, and give us back SD card readers also dvd, ethernet, hdmi, vga and floppy, yeah. sorry, i want nei

> give us back USB ports, give us back swappable batteries, and give us back SD card readers also dvd, ethernet, hdmi, vga and floppy, yeah. sorry, i want neither of these in my laptop. i want it to be lightweight, small, solid and durable body without moving parts or too many holes. what you want is achievable with dock station.

metargz 8y ago
> sorry, i want neither of these in my laptop. i want it to be lightweight, small, solid and durable body without moving parts or too many holes. Thinkpad T480s weights about the same as the current MBP, has more useful ports (I find having hdmi, ethernet and older usb handy on a device I use in my work trips), good keyboard, replaceable hardware and whatnot. It is bigger, but Lenovo makes smaller Thinkpads too. Subjectively, I find it more robust than my MBP at work, but that's not the point. The point is, the sacrifices Apple makes on their current Macbook Pros are simply design choices, not engineering tradeoffs.
- keymone 8y ago
  i'm not defending macbooks here unconditionally. of course keyboard is worse than previous generation. i hope apple fixes it in the next. but otherwise, macbooks are hands down best hardware design of a laptop on the market. touchpad alone makes me not even consider any of the lenovo stuff. visual, tactile and functional design matter more to me than having 32g ram. not having more holes is preferable to me than having more holes. abandoning everything for 4 usbc ports is painful at first, but a great decision that will move the industry as a whole forward. of course this is all subjective, use whatever works best for you.
blhack 8y ago
Ethernet sure, but the rest of that stuff has been completely replaced. This is what I mean: make a laptop for people who need stuff like SD card readers and USB, and make another for people who don't. The way I see the breakdown is the "pro" or "air" lines.

metargz 8y ago

> sorry, i want neither of these in my laptop. i want it to be lightweight, small, solid and durable body without moving parts or too many holes. Thinkpad T480s weights about the same as the current MBP, has more useful ports (I find having hdmi, ethernet and older usb handy on a device I use in my work trips), good keyboard, replaceable hardware and whatnot. It is bigger, but Lenovo makes smaller Thinkpads too. Subjectively, I find it more robust than my MBP at work, but that's not the point. The point is, the sacrifices Apple makes on their current Macbook Pros are simply design choices, not engineering tradeoffs.

keymone 8y ago
i'm not defending macbooks here unconditionally. of course keyboard is worse than previous generation. i hope apple fixes it in the next. but otherwise, macbooks are hands down best hardware design of a laptop on the market. touchpad alone makes me not even consider any of the lenovo stuff. visual, tactile and functional design matter more to me than having 32g ram. not having more holes is preferable to me than having more holes. abandoning everything for 4 usbc ports is painful at first, but a great decision that will move the industry as a whole forward. of course this is all subjective, use whatever works best for you.

blhack 8y ago

Ethernet sure, but the rest of that stuff has been completely replaced. This is what I mean: make a laptop for people who need stuff like SD card readers and USB, and make another for people who don't. The way I see the breakdown is the "pro" or "air" lines.