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> Probably going to get downvoted to oblivion, but please respond with comments and not with (too much) downvotes. Probably due to the fact that you're using w

> Probably going to get downvoted to oblivion, but please respond with comments and not with (too much) downvotes. Probably due to the fact that you're using whataboutism[1] as a defence rather than tackling the fact that Windows does log user activity and report it. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

King-Aaron 8y ago
Personally I just downvote someone immediately when they mention anything about being downvoted in their post. It's called losing the game.
NicoJuicy 8y ago
I mentioned what Windows does and talked about something else i can compare. My relevant point was : It's measuring activities and performance yes, it's not stealing your information as the user activity is also anonymous. I don't see you making a relevant comment though.
- ionised 8y ago
  > My relevant point was : It's measuring activities and performance yes, it's not stealing your information as the user activity is also anonymous. Firstly, how do you know it is truly anonymous? And is this anonymisation being done on the users machine, or one Microsoft's servers? If the latter, MS has access to unanonymised data. Secondly, cross-referenced with other 'anonymised' data sets it is quite possible to de-anonymise people. I'm not convinced there is any such thing as a truly anonymous data set anymore, not when it comes to data collected from a users device.
  - NicoJuicy 8y ago
    They are pretty specific without hiding the fact what they collect here : https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10-feedback-diagnostics-and-privacy https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10-feedback-diag... A governement can automate it to follow it back to the user, but a corporation can't. They are the only ones that show it this straight forward, can you find a page like that on one of the other big tech companies? ( Apple, Google, Amazon) TL;DR; You can follow it back to a specific device, but you can't follow it back to "who is the user". Which seems to be a valid business decision, considering the complex matter they are in ( the biggest variety of devices and users). You can also check it for yourselve: https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/24/16927056/microsoft-windows-10-data-collection-viewer-privacy https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/24/16927056/microsoft-window... Telemetry can also be disabled This seems to be the worst, if a part of a document contains your personal data, when you are working on it and it crashes. Full data includes all Basic and Enhanced data, and also turns on advanced diagnostic features that collect additional data from your device, such as system files or memory snapshots, which may unintentionally include parts of a document you were working on when a problem occurred. This information helps us further troubleshoot and fix problems. If an error report contains personal data, we won't use that information to identify, contact, or target advertising to you. This is the recommended option for the best Windows experience and the most effective troubleshooting.

King-Aaron 8y ago

Personally I just downvote someone immediately when they mention anything about being downvoted in their post. It's called losing the game.

NicoJuicy 8y ago

I mentioned what Windows does and talked about something else i can compare. My relevant point was : It's measuring activities and performance yes, it's not stealing your information as the user activity is also anonymous. I don't see you making a relevant comment though.

ionised 8y ago
> My relevant point was : It's measuring activities and performance yes, it's not stealing your information as the user activity is also anonymous. Firstly, how do you know it is truly anonymous? And is this anonymisation being done on the users machine, or one Microsoft's servers? If the latter, MS has access to unanonymised data. Secondly, cross-referenced with other 'anonymised' data sets it is quite possible to de-anonymise people. I'm not convinced there is any such thing as a truly anonymous data set anymore, not when it comes to data collected from a users device.
- NicoJuicy 8y ago
  They are pretty specific without hiding the fact what they collect here : https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10-feedback-diagnostics-and-privacy https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10-feedback-diag... A governement can automate it to follow it back to the user, but a corporation can't. They are the only ones that show it this straight forward, can you find a page like that on one of the other big tech companies? ( Apple, Google, Amazon) TL;DR; You can follow it back to a specific device, but you can't follow it back to "who is the user". Which seems to be a valid business decision, considering the complex matter they are in ( the biggest variety of devices and users). You can also check it for yourselve: https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/24/16927056/microsoft-windows-10-data-collection-viewer-privacy https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/24/16927056/microsoft-window... Telemetry can also be disabled This seems to be the worst, if a part of a document contains your personal data, when you are working on it and it crashes. Full data includes all Basic and Enhanced data, and also turns on advanced diagnostic features that collect additional data from your device, such as system files or memory snapshots, which may unintentionally include parts of a document you were working on when a problem occurred. This information helps us further troubleshoot and fix problems. If an error report contains personal data, we won't use that information to identify, contact, or target advertising to you. This is the recommended option for the best Windows experience and the most effective troubleshooting.