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What if facebook isnt trying to get rid of the media? What if that is actually users being sick of it? Mind you facebook has driven me to the point I stopped u

What if facebook isnt trying to get rid of the media? What if that is actually users being sick of it? Mind you facebook has driven me to the point I stopped using it entirely.

rock_hard 8y ago
You mean the media or Facebook? If Facebook, then why do they keep growing their user base quarter over quarter? Don’t underestimate the bubble you are in and extrapolating that to global scale! Facebook is here to stay for the time being, whether you personally choose to use it or not!
- apatters 8y ago
  You're cherrypicking one metric with a nonchalance that Facebook's investors surely do not share. FB is experiencing its slowest global user growth ever, and US users are declining. Popular/media criticism and boycotting actually appear to be making an impact in the west, along with an inevitable generation shift (young'uns just aren't thrilled about sharing a social platform with Mom and Gramps). Having failed at doing news in a way that users liked, it makes sense for FB to pull out. Most of their new users are in countries with poor education systems or regimes that censor the news. News is an awkward business to be in under those conditions anyway. None of this is surprising at all once you've seen multiple product cycles, markets do in fact matter, no company rules forever, if your product is total crap people will drift away from it, this time is almost never different. Friendster died, Myspace died, etc. FB can go the same way if they mis-execute badly enough (though it could certainly take decades especially in their strongest markets).
  - Haydos585x2 8y ago
    I've really slowed using Facebook because of the amount of misinformation or straight up lies by some acquaintance. Comments on any kind of news source are pretty bad as well. So many lies just made the platform unusable for me.
    - apatters 8y ago
      It's quite remarkable really how tone deaf the product planning at Facebook has been. For centuries thousands of families have deemed it a wise decision to forbid politics as a discussion topic at the dinner table. Zuck jumps right in the middle of the table and "connects the world" by shoving Trump articles with unmoderated comment threads in all their faces. Because an A/B test showed that it "promoted engagement." Such idiocy lol.
      - Haydos585x2 8y ago
        I'd love to see a Facebook where either I or the page itself could hide/forbid comments. I'm sure that no news company would ever turn off comments on their pages but they might. A lot of companies have disabled comments on their websites. I really don't care that some bloke thinks everything is a Zionist conspiracy to eradicate the white race. The smaller lies and falsehoods are what gets me even more. It's basically the Gell-Mann amnesia affect on steroids: "You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray [Gell-Mann]'s case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the 'wet streets cause rain' stories. Paper's full of them. In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know."
      - Theodores 8y ago
        They have WhatsApp for people to send pictures of the grandchild to grandma with everything being in a nice politics free bubble, safely disconnected from the 'real world' (of fake news) and 'likes'. Family group chats on WhatsApp is probably what a lot of people use now rather than the original Facebook product. This being the case they have been able to experiment a bit with how the monetize mainstream Facebook.
  - rock_hard 8y ago
    I don’t know where you read that US users are declining but based on the last earnings call it’s still growing! Is it growing as fast as other regions? of course not! FB already captures some 80% of the US population...there isn’t much space to grow left! If from now one they loose some users a quarter and regain them the next quarter that is still amazing!

What if facebook isnt trying to get rid of the media? What if that is actually users being sick of it? Mind you facebook has driven me to the point I stopped using it entirely.

rock_hard 8y ago

You mean the media or Facebook? If Facebook, then why do they keep growing their user base quarter over quarter? Don’t underestimate the bubble you are in and extrapolating that to global scale! Facebook is here to stay for the time being, whether you personally choose to use it or not!

apatters 8y ago
You're cherrypicking one metric with a nonchalance that Facebook's investors surely do not share. FB is experiencing its slowest global user growth ever, and US users are declining. Popular/media criticism and boycotting actually appear to be making an impact in the west, along with an inevitable generation shift (young'uns just aren't thrilled about sharing a social platform with Mom and Gramps). Having failed at doing news in a way that users liked, it makes sense for FB to pull out. Most of their new users are in countries with poor education systems or regimes that censor the news. News is an awkward business to be in under those conditions anyway. None of this is surprising at all once you've seen multiple product cycles, markets do in fact matter, no company rules forever, if your product is total crap people will drift away from it, this time is almost never different. Friendster died, Myspace died, etc. FB can go the same way if they mis-execute badly enough (though it could certainly take decades especially in their strongest markets).
- Haydos585x2 8y ago
  I've really slowed using Facebook because of the amount of misinformation or straight up lies by some acquaintance. Comments on any kind of news source are pretty bad as well. So many lies just made the platform unusable for me.
  - apatters 8y ago
    It's quite remarkable really how tone deaf the product planning at Facebook has been. For centuries thousands of families have deemed it a wise decision to forbid politics as a discussion topic at the dinner table. Zuck jumps right in the middle of the table and "connects the world" by shoving Trump articles with unmoderated comment threads in all their faces. Because an A/B test showed that it "promoted engagement." Such idiocy lol.
    - Haydos585x2 8y ago
      I'd love to see a Facebook where either I or the page itself could hide/forbid comments. I'm sure that no news company would ever turn off comments on their pages but they might. A lot of companies have disabled comments on their websites. I really don't care that some bloke thinks everything is a Zionist conspiracy to eradicate the white race. The smaller lies and falsehoods are what gets me even more. It's basically the Gell-Mann amnesia affect on steroids: "You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray [Gell-Mann]'s case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the 'wet streets cause rain' stories. Paper's full of them. In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know."
    - Theodores 8y ago
      They have WhatsApp for people to send pictures of the grandchild to grandma with everything being in a nice politics free bubble, safely disconnected from the 'real world' (of fake news) and 'likes'. Family group chats on WhatsApp is probably what a lot of people use now rather than the original Facebook product. This being the case they have been able to experiment a bit with how the monetize mainstream Facebook.
- rock_hard 8y ago
  I don’t know where you read that US users are declining but based on the last earnings call it’s still growing! Is it growing as fast as other regions? of course not! FB already captures some 80% of the US population...there isn’t much space to grow left! If from now one they loose some users a quarter and regain them the next quarter that is still amazing!