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From the article: 'He once said, referring to homosexuals, “it’s their deliberate, disgusting, revolting conduct that is responsible for the disease.”' The sex

From the article: 'He once said, referring to homosexuals, “it’s their deliberate, disgusting, revolting conduct that is responsible for the disease.”' The sexual practices of male homosexuals are the reason they have a much higher prevalence of AIDS. If we can discourage cigarette smoking because it causes lung cancer, why can't we discourage the behaviors that spread AIDS?

patrickg_zill 8y ago
It's not a point that can be addressed honestly. Expect to be down voted massively...
- greglindahl 8y ago
  Honestly, "safer sex" campaigns have been a success, while telling people "anal sex is bad so don't do it" hasn't been. Also, demonizing gay men over anal sex has been successful for centuries, even though lots of heterosexuals also engage in it. That's what comes to my my mind when you mention honesty.
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wolfgang42 8y ago
You can discourage the behaviors (or better, encourage safer ones), and this is a very good idea. However, per the article, Senator Helms was blaming and reviling the people involved (“There is not one single case of AIDS in this country that cannot be traced in origin to sodomy”) and actively discouraging any attempts to fund prevention measures which would reduce the spread of the disease. This is precisely the opposite of your suggestion, but the way you have phrased your commment suggests that you are condoning his behaviour. I guess that this (and not the other commenter's claim that your point “[cannot] be addressed honestly”) is why you are being downvoted.
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dang 8y ago
It looks like you've been using HN primarily for ideological battle. Please don't use HN this way. It's against the site rules and destructive of what the site exists for, so we ban accounts that do it, as https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html says.
- 1951362362 8y ago
  Why is every conservative leaning post ideological battle, but every couple days we have 20+ comments yelling about UBI, that somehow isn't ideological battle?
  - dang 8y ago
    It's inevitably a judgment call because there is overlap between political topics and good HN material. If someone is name-calling, yelling, or ranting, that's more likely ideological battle. If someone is substantively discussing UBI, that may be a bit of a tired theme, but it obviously isn't necessarily battle mode. > Why is every conservative leaning post It isn't. It just feels that way to you because of the hostile media effect (https://hn.algolia.com/?query=%22hostile%20media%20effect%22&sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0 https://hn.algolia.com/?query=%22hostile%20media%20effect%22...). Everyone always feels like their favorite point of view is censored or suppressed and that the mods are against their side.

patrickg_zill 8y ago

It's not a point that can be addressed honestly. Expect to be down voted massively...

greglindahl 8y ago
Honestly, "safer sex" campaigns have been a success, while telling people "anal sex is bad so don't do it" hasn't been. Also, demonizing gay men over anal sex has been successful for centuries, even though lots of heterosexuals also engage in it. That's what comes to my my mind when you mention honesty.

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wolfgang42 8y ago

You can discourage the behaviors (or better, encourage safer ones), and this is a very good idea. However, per the article, Senator Helms was blaming and reviling the people involved (“There is not one single case of AIDS in this country that cannot be traced in origin to sodomy”) and actively discouraging any attempts to fund prevention measures which would reduce the spread of the disease. This is precisely the opposite of your suggestion, but the way you have phrased your commment suggests that you are condoning his behaviour. I guess that this (and not the other commenter's claim that your point “[cannot] be addressed honestly”) is why you are being downvoted.

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dang 8y ago

It looks like you've been using HN primarily for ideological battle. Please don't use HN this way. It's against the site rules and destructive of what the site exists for, so we ban accounts that do it, as https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html says.

1951362362 8y ago
Why is every conservative leaning post ideological battle, but every couple days we have 20+ comments yelling about UBI, that somehow isn't ideological battle?
- dang 8y ago
  It's inevitably a judgment call because there is overlap between political topics and good HN material. If someone is name-calling, yelling, or ranting, that's more likely ideological battle. If someone is substantively discussing UBI, that may be a bit of a tired theme, but it obviously isn't necessarily battle mode. > Why is every conservative leaning post It isn't. It just feels that way to you because of the hostile media effect (https://hn.algolia.com/?query=%22hostile%20media%20effect%22&sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0 https://hn.algolia.com/?query=%22hostile%20media%20effect%22...). Everyone always feels like their favorite point of view is censored or suppressed and that the mods are against their side.