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For more of a guide to surviving collapses, this essay about the 2001 Argentine Financial crisis is pure gold. I have printed several copies and read it about o

by jefe_ 8y ago

For more of a guide to surviving collapses, this essay about the 2001 Argentine Financial crisis is pure gold. I have printed several copies and read it about once a year: http://ferfal.blogspot.com/2008/10/thoughts-on-urban-survival-2005.html http://ferfal.blogspot.com/2008/10/thoughts-on-urban-surviva...

glockenspielen 8y ago
Thanks for this. I read it years ago and was unable to find it since.
probably_wrong 8y ago
Sorry to be the negative one but, as someone who lived through the 2001 economic crisis, I have no idea what this guy is talking about. He seems to write a lot of survivalist tips, so I would keep that in mind - from a survivalist perspective, all society is at the point of collapse.
- harias 8y ago
  Do you mean to say it was better than he depicts it to be? or is it something else?
  - probably_wrong 8y ago
    Yes, I think he's cherry-picking some specific situations to make it seem much more tragic that it was. For instance, > Some ate whatever they could; they hunted birds or ate street dogs and cats, others starved. When it comes to food, cities suck in a crisis. Sure, some did. They even showed up on the news due to how weird even the idea of eating birds was. But that's the 0.001% - the average citizen reduced their expenses, moved back with their parents, asked their relatives for help, and/or started using the food banks. > in 2001 half the country went without power for 3 days. Buenos Aires was one big dark grave. That's straight up BS - there were widespread power outages, but they lasted typically hours, not days. And even though specific neighborhoods had days without power, to call it "a big dark grave" is too much. > There are absolutely NO kids playing on the sidewalks at all, at any time of the day There are no kids playing nowadays either, but that's because they are at school (the average school day is longer than it used to be), playing with their cellphones, or (at the time) playing Counter Strike in cyber-cafes with dedicated LANs. And so on. It also doesn't help that he paints the entire country based on Buenos Aires, a city that has a very strong cultural division to the rest of the country.
harias 8y ago
Thanks for that. It seems safer than I imagined (Schools, theatres, and bars), might have something to do with his financial status though.
maerF0x0 8y ago
The post talks about the difference between urban vs rural survival . It talks about the kinds of brutality that can happen when help is far away and unlikely to be called. It reminds me of some of the stories found in this documentary: https://youtu.be/a_bDc7FfItk?t=21m09s https://youtu.be/a_bDc7FfItk?t=21m09s . There are some brutal descriptions of attacks that happened on farmers. Note: I haven't finished watching the video and I dont want to endorse it's message, just to point to some peoples' stories about what can happen if attacked in a rural homestead.
- maerF0x0 8y ago
  NB: I finished the movie and ultimately left a thumbsdown. It is informative of how horrible people can be to eachother, but IMO overall a biased documentary that isnt worth anyone's time.

by jefe_ 8y ago

glockenspielen 8y ago

Thanks for this. I read it years ago and was unable to find it since.

probably_wrong 8y ago

Sorry to be the negative one but, as someone who lived through the 2001 economic crisis, I have no idea what this guy is talking about. He seems to write a lot of survivalist tips, so I would keep that in mind - from a survivalist perspective, all society is at the point of collapse.

harias 8y ago
Do you mean to say it was better than he depicts it to be? or is it something else?
- probably_wrong 8y ago
  Yes, I think he's cherry-picking some specific situations to make it seem much more tragic that it was. For instance, > Some ate whatever they could; they hunted birds or ate street dogs and cats, others starved. When it comes to food, cities suck in a crisis. Sure, some did. They even showed up on the news due to how weird even the idea of eating birds was. But that's the 0.001% - the average citizen reduced their expenses, moved back with their parents, asked their relatives for help, and/or started using the food banks. > in 2001 half the country went without power for 3 days. Buenos Aires was one big dark grave. That's straight up BS - there were widespread power outages, but they lasted typically hours, not days. And even though specific neighborhoods had days without power, to call it "a big dark grave" is too much. > There are absolutely NO kids playing on the sidewalks at all, at any time of the day There are no kids playing nowadays either, but that's because they are at school (the average school day is longer than it used to be), playing with their cellphones, or (at the time) playing Counter Strike in cyber-cafes with dedicated LANs. And so on. It also doesn't help that he paints the entire country based on Buenos Aires, a city that has a very strong cultural division to the rest of the country.

harias 8y ago

Thanks for that. It seems safer than I imagined (Schools, theatres, and bars), might have something to do with his financial status though.

maerF0x0 8y ago

The post talks about the difference between urban vs rural survival . It talks about the kinds of brutality that can happen when help is far away and unlikely to be called. It reminds me of some of the stories found in this documentary: https://youtu.be/a_bDc7FfItk?t=21m09s https://youtu.be/a_bDc7FfItk?t=21m09s . There are some brutal descriptions of attacks that happened on farmers. Note: I haven't finished watching the video and I dont want to endorse it's message, just to point to some peoples' stories about what can happen if attacked in a rural homestead.

maerF0x0 8y ago
NB: I finished the movie and ultimately left a thumbsdown. It is informative of how horrible people can be to eachother, but IMO overall a biased documentary that isnt worth anyone's time.