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LibreOffice works perfectly well for 99.9% of MS Office documents.

by daxorid 8y ago

lstepnio 8y ago
My experience differs drastically.
- asshole15 8y ago
  This is pretty common. Ironically modern day software "engineers" are grotesquely bad at imagining anything outside their bubble of experience. The average nerd claiming "99.9%" usability is about the very restricted set of docs they are probably viewing only. I'm really all in favor of use Libreoffice or gdocs or Pages if that really works for all you need to do. Maybe get outside though and realize there are people with other needs. I've lost count of the times I've literally had to tell these freetards to STFU.
jeswin 8y ago
I've been a Linux user for ages, and I disagree. Readable yes, but the formatting is almost always off (in Writer and Calc). Basically unusable if the docs have to be shared back with MS Office users.
- vetinari 8y ago
  Make sure you have exactly the same fonts available (Cambria, etc) as the Windows machine. That solves many of the formatting issues.
  - raarts 8y ago
    Same here, fonts are very important
oldcynic 8y ago
More like it spoils the layout of 99% of documents. It works perfectly well for really simple stuff. Like letters and a little bit of what-if doodling in the spreadsheet.
Moto7451 8y ago
I’ve had to work with, presumably, the same types of documents from layers as the GP. LibreOffice is fine if everyone is using it. It ends up being a bit of extra work to actually use in practice in a mixed environment. Some legal documents have a lot of formatting that imitates creating a layout with a typewriter and the structure is important. LibreOffice can be slightly off in meaningful ways from a WYSIWYG standpoint, but not necessarily a file format standpoint. So while you can open and edit, the output you will print may be off in subtle ways because you added some extra spacing, you have a different version of a font, etc. While it’s possibly to make documents that work correctly in both editors with this formatting, you’re simply not going to get people out of their flow. It’s received as well as if the legal team started telling you what your Vim config should be ;). It ends up being cheaper in terms of time saved for everyone to just buy office. I have a copy of Office just for Word based legal interactions and Excel and use LibreOffice for everything else out of preference for the “old school” UI.
dsego 8y ago
Unless it crashes and loses your document like it happened to me a year ago. Auto-save apparently exists but is not turned on by default or something. Infuriating when it happens.
vetinari 8y ago
Even MS Office is not always compatible with MS Office. Some time ago (shortly after MSO2016 for Mac release), I had to fill in a certain document, which I did and returned. Except it wasn't filled correctly, because Word 2016 for Mac didn't support the form controls, the document used them and I had no idea about that. The other party called, we met, compared what we have both seen on the screen, corrected the document and closed that with "word acting funny for whatever reason" (the other party used 2013 for Windows). If I was using LibreOffice and something similar would happen, despite that they do a great job, the blame would be distributed in another fashion. Fast forward several months and I see in the monthly update release notes, that the forms feature was added to the Mac release.

LibreOffice works perfectly well for 99.9% of MS Office documents.

lstepnio 8y ago

My experience differs drastically.

asshole15 8y ago
This is pretty common. Ironically modern day software "engineers" are grotesquely bad at imagining anything outside their bubble of experience. The average nerd claiming "99.9%" usability is about the very restricted set of docs they are probably viewing only. I'm really all in favor of use Libreoffice or gdocs or Pages if that really works for all you need to do. Maybe get outside though and realize there are people with other needs. I've lost count of the times I've literally had to tell these freetards to STFU.

jeswin 8y ago

I've been a Linux user for ages, and I disagree. Readable yes, but the formatting is almost always off (in Writer and Calc). Basically unusable if the docs have to be shared back with MS Office users.

vetinari 8y ago
Make sure you have exactly the same fonts available (Cambria, etc) as the Windows machine. That solves many of the formatting issues.
- raarts 8y ago
  Same here, fonts are very important

oldcynic 8y ago

More like it spoils the layout of 99% of documents. It works perfectly well for really simple stuff. Like letters and a little bit of what-if doodling in the spreadsheet.

Moto7451 8y ago

I’ve had to work with, presumably, the same types of documents from layers as the GP. LibreOffice is fine if everyone is using it. It ends up being a bit of extra work to actually use in practice in a mixed environment. Some legal documents have a lot of formatting that imitates creating a layout with a typewriter and the structure is important. LibreOffice can be slightly off in meaningful ways from a WYSIWYG standpoint, but not necessarily a file format standpoint. So while you can open and edit, the output you will print may be off in subtle ways because you added some extra spacing, you have a different version of a font, etc. While it’s possibly to make documents that work correctly in both editors with this formatting, you’re simply not going to get people out of their flow. It’s received as well as if the legal team started telling you what your Vim config should be ;). It ends up being cheaper in terms of time saved for everyone to just buy office. I have a copy of Office just for Word based legal interactions and Excel and use LibreOffice for everything else out of preference for the “old school” UI.

dsego 8y ago

Unless it crashes and loses your document like it happened to me a year ago. Auto-save apparently exists but is not turned on by default or something. Infuriating when it happens.

vetinari 8y ago

Even MS Office is not always compatible with MS Office. Some time ago (shortly after MSO2016 for Mac release), I had to fill in a certain document, which I did and returned. Except it wasn't filled correctly, because Word 2016 for Mac didn't support the form controls, the document used them and I had no idea about that. The other party called, we met, compared what we have both seen on the screen, corrected the document and closed that with "word acting funny for whatever reason" (the other party used 2013 for Windows). If I was using LibreOffice and something similar would happen, despite that they do a great job, the blame would be distributed in another fashion. Fast forward several months and I see in the monthly update release notes, that the forms feature was added to the Mac release.