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There is no way Google will get rid of the headphone jack after all the ads they had making fun of Apple for doing that.

bena 8y ago
And I think this shows that the majority of consumers have absolutely no idea about product development. Say whatever else you want about Apple's decision to remove the headphone jack, but it was bold. They got raked over the coals by the media, by consumers, by competitors. And in the end, looks like they were right. It reminds me a bit of Nintendo. Nintendo often makes decisions that people say are bad. Motion controls won't work. The Wii is a stupid name. Link isn't a cartoon. You can't make a decent handheld. But they hit more often than they miss. And even some of their misses are just too early. I mean, what is the Virtual Boy but a really rough Oculus Rift? The WiiU wasn't enough different from the Wii, but it led the way to the Switch. The Wind Waker turned out to be one of the better Zelda games. You need to sometimes take those steps that no one else would in order to advance the art.
- ars 8y ago
  Apple is not right to remove the headphone jack. I, for example, am not buying a new pixel phone specifically because they don't come with headphone jacks. Don't confuse people not having any choice with people actually wanting not to have the jack. Same with the non-removable battery, it's not something I want, I just don't have any choice.
  - magduf 8y ago
    >Same with the non-removable battery, it's not something I want, I just don't have any choice. Sure you do. The LG V20 has a removable battery.
    - ars 8y ago
      While the V20 seems like a nice phone, I don't want to have just a single choice of phones, the battery is not the only thing I care about in a phone. Also the LG V30 doesn't have a removable battery, so it seems like the V20 is the last of an era.
      - magduf 8y ago
        >While the V20 seems like a nice phone, I don't want to have just a single choice of phones, the battery is not the only thing I care about in a phone. You can't have everything you want. If a replaceable battery is a big deal for you, you pick a phone that has it, and deal with the drawbacks (which in this phone is probably relatively poor battery life and a large size). And you get a used phone if you have to: the V20 isn't very old. I have its predecessor, the V10, and it works great. >Also the LG V30 doesn't have a removable battery, so it seems like the V20 is the last of an era. Perhaps, but you can vote with your wallet. Don't buy the expensive, brand-new phone that doesn't have the important feature you want. Stick with an older phone that does.

bena 8y ago

And I think this shows that the majority of consumers have absolutely no idea about product development. Say whatever else you want about Apple's decision to remove the headphone jack, but it was bold. They got raked over the coals by the media, by consumers, by competitors. And in the end, looks like they were right. It reminds me a bit of Nintendo. Nintendo often makes decisions that people say are bad. Motion controls won't work. The Wii is a stupid name. Link isn't a cartoon. You can't make a decent handheld. But they hit more often than they miss. And even some of their misses are just too early. I mean, what is the Virtual Boy but a really rough Oculus Rift? The WiiU wasn't enough different from the Wii, but it led the way to the Switch. The Wind Waker turned out to be one of the better Zelda games. You need to sometimes take those steps that no one else would in order to advance the art.

ars 8y ago
Apple is not right to remove the headphone jack. I, for example, am not buying a new pixel phone specifically because they don't come with headphone jacks. Don't confuse people not having any choice with people actually wanting not to have the jack. Same with the non-removable battery, it's not something I want, I just don't have any choice.
- magduf 8y ago
  >Same with the non-removable battery, it's not something I want, I just don't have any choice. Sure you do. The LG V20 has a removable battery.
  - ars 8y ago
    While the V20 seems like a nice phone, I don't want to have just a single choice of phones, the battery is not the only thing I care about in a phone. Also the LG V30 doesn't have a removable battery, so it seems like the V20 is the last of an era.
    - magduf 8y ago
      >While the V20 seems like a nice phone, I don't want to have just a single choice of phones, the battery is not the only thing I care about in a phone. You can't have everything you want. If a replaceable battery is a big deal for you, you pick a phone that has it, and deal with the drawbacks (which in this phone is probably relatively poor battery life and a large size). And you get a used phone if you have to: the V20 isn't very old. I have its predecessor, the V10, and it works great. >Also the LG V30 doesn't have a removable battery, so it seems like the V20 is the last of an era. Perhaps, but you can vote with your wallet. Don't buy the expensive, brand-new phone that doesn't have the important feature you want. Stick with an older phone that does.