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facebook made their changes, and failed. they’ve played their hand, now it’s time for the law to tell them what utter bull it is. do you think facebook is going

facebook made their changes, and failed. they’ve played their hand, now it’s time for the law to tell them what utter bull it is. do you think facebook is going to change anything from now? the point of “no instant fines” is to give companies a chance to change and develop their GDPR systems. if those systems are both complete, and in violation, why shouldn’t they be fined?

fauigerzigerk 8y ago
>facebook made their changes, and failed. That is yet to be determined by the regulator and the courts. Facebook has made their changes. Now someone will complain to the regulator. Then the regulator will make a determination and maybe ask Facebook to make further changes. Then Facebook has another opportunity to comply. If they refuse to make those changes they will get fined and can go to court to fight the regulator's decision. At least that is my understanding of how this system works.
repolfx 8y ago
The GDPR doesn't specify anything precisely. Facebook made changes, they clearly do comply with the GDPR because the GDPR gives much leeway in how it's interpreted. But there's a deeper reason why the EU fining Facebook would be a deep demonstration of malaise, incompetence and greed. From the report: Research has shown that most users will never look at, let alone change, the default settings. That's right, and you know why? Because users don't care and never did. This entire privacy crusade is made up out of whole cloth, by the EU, to obtain power and money. These foolish governments constantly demand more and more controls, consent agreements and so on and the users constantly don't use those new controls and always consent because they were perfectly fine to begin with. There are no dark patterns. There are no evil conspiracies. There are only users, who enjoy broadcasting every detail of their lives to their friends and sometimes the world.

fauigerzigerk 8y ago

>facebook made their changes, and failed. That is yet to be determined by the regulator and the courts. Facebook has made their changes. Now someone will complain to the regulator. Then the regulator will make a determination and maybe ask Facebook to make further changes. Then Facebook has another opportunity to comply. If they refuse to make those changes they will get fined and can go to court to fight the regulator's decision. At least that is my understanding of how this system works.

repolfx 8y ago

The GDPR doesn't specify anything precisely. Facebook made changes, they clearly do comply with the GDPR because the GDPR gives much leeway in how it's interpreted. But there's a deeper reason why the EU fining Facebook would be a deep demonstration of malaise, incompetence and greed. From the report: Research has shown that most users will never look at, let alone change, the default settings. That's right, and you know why? Because users don't care and never did. This entire privacy crusade is made up out of whole cloth, by the EU, to obtain power and money. These foolish governments constantly demand more and more controls, consent agreements and so on and the users constantly don't use those new controls and always consent because they were perfectly fine to begin with. There are no dark patterns. There are no evil conspiracies. There are only users, who enjoy broadcasting every detail of their lives to their friends and sometimes the world.