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That flow was really scummy. I remember going through it. The entry point was an email claiming you have to "read and accept the updated policies in order to c
by scrollaway 8y ago
That flow was really scummy. I remember going through it.
The entry point was an email claiming you have to "read and accept the updated policies in order to continue using the site". And the first thing you're presented with was that two-choice "Manage data settings" / "Accept and continue", implying for the user who is less than extremely careful that if you don't "Accept and continue", you won't be able to use the site anymore.
It's only after that modal that you're presented with the updated T&Cs which you indeed need to either accept or delete your account.
And of course all the various things people have noted:
- A red dot in the fake-header to make you think you have pending notifications
- A complete disregard for "privacy by default"
All this right after Mark testified in congress saying "no we used to be bad and we made mistakes but now we really care, you see".
For a site that despises transparency, Facebook has never been so transparent about how little it gives a crap about its users.
I have some friends working at Facebook who will probably read this and be upset I think so little of their place of work. Folks, I have a huge respect for some of the excellent work that goes on at Facebook, especially in open source. But that doesn't change how scummy the core site itself is.
- malka 8y agoFacebook will never care about Privacy. People like Zuckerberg are scum, and deserve jail. As an individual, I really do NOT want to live in the same society as this kind of person.
- CaptainZapp 8y agoMr. Zuckerberg cares a lot about privacy. Privacy for him and his family, that is.
- lancewiggs 8y agoBy staying at Facebook your friends are explicitly supporting these and other scummy actions. They have decided to hold their noses and prioritise themselves over humanity. Think less of them.
- fsloth 8y ago"Think less of them." That's a horrible metric to apply measuring 'human worth', whatever that is. Humans are by default wired to do what everyone else is doing. Just using Facebook because everyone else is doing it as well is what humans do. They flock to the communities and forums where the action is. They cannot comprehend graph theory intuitively and what power Facebook potentially wields in interfering in their lives. Governments are supposed to protect people from threats the masses cannot comprehend. Like example taking care of vaccinations.
- scrollaway 8y agoThis is a totally inappropriate thing to ask of anyone. Please rethink your view on life. Edit: Also, that's not what "explicitly" means. I think you meant "implicitly".
- TheSpiceIsLife 8y agoSuperior orders, often known as the Nuremberg defense, lawful orders or by the German phrase Befehl ist Befehl ("an order is an order"), is a plea in a court of law that a person—whether a member of the military, law enforcement, a firefighting force, or the civilian population—not be held guilty for actions ordered by a superior officer or an official.[1] The Nuremberg defence is widely regarded as invalid. 1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_orders https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_orders
- rickycook 8y agosome people work for charities, some people work for facebook. the employees make the company, and are complicit if they don’t react harshly to decisions made by their board like google employees did... if nobody wants to support the scummy tactics that “the company” is pushing, it won’t get done. sometimes you need to have a spine to get anything changed otherwise we are just heading for a blade runner distopia, and we in the tech industry are pushing us there as fast as our pay cheques can. people quit google over the military project because they didn’t agree with it. i don’t think it’s crazy to do the same over facebooks disgusting manipulation of their user base.