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Doesn't invalidate what you said, but just in case: Norway is not in the EU.

by tbassetto 8y ago

digi_owl 8y ago
May as well be, as via the EEA we seem to adopt more directives from Brussels than some full members...
- EliRivers 8y ago
  Well, speaking as a Brit, allow us to demonstrate Norway++ We shall finish up subject to the full set of EU obligations and privileges, but everyone shall strongly agree that the UK is not part of the EU. No no no. Just in the various unions and so forth, matching all the rules and that sort of thing. Not part of the EU. Nu uh! :)
  - lapnitnelav 8y ago
    Plausible denEUbility?
  - pjc50 8y ago
    Yeah, this is the ""best case"" Brexit option: the same as now, except we've excluded ourselves from all the political institutions of the EU. So we have to accept all the rules and get no say in them. (The worst case option is the government is too disorganised to agree anything with anyone and we start running out of food, fuel and medicine...)
- kazen44 8y ago
  The only thing holding norway back from full EU membership is fishing rights and a referendum on EU membership. Norway seems to actually accept its current political position inside the EU's sphere of influence just fine.
  - tyfon 8y ago
    Right now we are in the worst position. We have to accept all EU rules but we don't have any influence over it. I'd take full membership over that any time but the politicians don't want to risk a 3rd referendum. So we're stuck between the "bark and the wood" as a Norwegian proverb goes.
    - DelightOne 8y ago
      If it‘s that what the Norwegian people want, why not. I think they know very well what they are doing.
    - kazen44 8y ago
      in my opinion, membership would be the wiser choice, especially as it becomes more and more clear geopolitical influence is done mainly through trade and softpower. Alas, it should be a democratic choice to join the EU, the vessel which decided how (referendum or parlementary method) depends entirely on the (to-be) member state.
    - netsharc 8y ago
      Don't they prefer to be not in the EU, because they can keep their oil to themselves? (AFAIK if they're in the EU then EU oil companies can ask to drill in their territory: https://www.politico.eu/article/of-crustaceans-and-oil-the-case-of-the-snow-crab-on-svalbard/ https://www.politico.eu/article/of-crustaceans-and-oil-the-c... ). So maybe it's better to have no deciding voice but be able to keep all the money.
      - tyfon 8y ago
        Oil companies can still get licenses and drill in Norway, they just have to pay taxes (80%) and that won't change. The people decided in two referendums that they do not want to be in the EU, but the politicians did not accept it and created the EAA/EØS which basically puts us in EU in all but name with very limited power to influence what happens there. It was not democratically done. I am pro EU, but it was the wrong way to do it.
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neuronic 8y ago
As Norway is a member of EEA (European Economic Area) they get GDPR anyway. https://easygdpr.eu/2017/09/gdpr-in-norway-personal-data-act/ https://easygdpr.eu/2017/09/gdpr-in-norway-personal-data-act...
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Doesn't invalidate what you said, but just in case: Norway is not in the EU.

digi_owl 8y ago

May as well be, as via the EEA we seem to adopt more directives from Brussels than some full members...

EliRivers 8y ago
Well, speaking as a Brit, allow us to demonstrate Norway++ We shall finish up subject to the full set of EU obligations and privileges, but everyone shall strongly agree that the UK is not part of the EU. No no no. Just in the various unions and so forth, matching all the rules and that sort of thing. Not part of the EU. Nu uh! :)
- lapnitnelav 8y ago
  Plausible denEUbility?
- pjc50 8y ago
  Yeah, this is the ""best case"" Brexit option: the same as now, except we've excluded ourselves from all the political institutions of the EU. So we have to accept all the rules and get no say in them. (The worst case option is the government is too disorganised to agree anything with anyone and we start running out of food, fuel and medicine...)
kazen44 8y ago
The only thing holding norway back from full EU membership is fishing rights and a referendum on EU membership. Norway seems to actually accept its current political position inside the EU's sphere of influence just fine.
- tyfon 8y ago
  Right now we are in the worst position. We have to accept all EU rules but we don't have any influence over it. I'd take full membership over that any time but the politicians don't want to risk a 3rd referendum. So we're stuck between the "bark and the wood" as a Norwegian proverb goes.
  - DelightOne 8y ago
    If it‘s that what the Norwegian people want, why not. I think they know very well what they are doing.
  - kazen44 8y ago
    in my opinion, membership would be the wiser choice, especially as it becomes more and more clear geopolitical influence is done mainly through trade and softpower. Alas, it should be a democratic choice to join the EU, the vessel which decided how (referendum or parlementary method) depends entirely on the (to-be) member state.
  - netsharc 8y ago
    Don't they prefer to be not in the EU, because they can keep their oil to themselves? (AFAIK if they're in the EU then EU oil companies can ask to drill in their territory: https://www.politico.eu/article/of-crustaceans-and-oil-the-case-of-the-snow-crab-on-svalbard/ https://www.politico.eu/article/of-crustaceans-and-oil-the-c... ). So maybe it's better to have no deciding voice but be able to keep all the money.
    - tyfon 8y ago
      Oil companies can still get licenses and drill in Norway, they just have to pay taxes (80%) and that won't change. The people decided in two referendums that they do not want to be in the EU, but the politicians did not accept it and created the EAA/EØS which basically puts us in EU in all but name with very limited power to influence what happens there. It was not democratically done. I am pro EU, but it was the wrong way to do it.
      - 8y ago

neuronic 8y ago

As Norway is a member of EEA (European Economic Area) they get GDPR anyway. https://easygdpr.eu/2017/09/gdpr-in-norway-personal-data-act/ https://easygdpr.eu/2017/09/gdpr-in-norway-personal-data-act...

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