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What do you mean with "not cloud-based"? You mean IaaS rather than PaaS?

krn 8y ago
Hetzner is a bare-metal company operating since 1997, which hasn't released a cloud-based storage yet. "Your files on Storage Boxes are safeguarded with a RAID configuration which can withstand several drive failures. Therefore, there is a relatively small chance of data being lost. Please note, however, that you are responsible for your data and there is no guarantee from Hetzner against potential loss of data. The data is not mirrored onto other servers." https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Storage_Boxes/en#Reliability https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Storage_Boxes/en#Reliabili...
- m_mueller 8y ago
  Thank you - so it‘s just less redundant than e.g. Backblaze (I assume). That‘s an important distinction. See, I‘m not a fan of using buzzwords to describe anything in more detail. „Cloud“, „AI“, „Big Data“, „NoSQL“ etc. is (sometimes) fine to get non technical people interested, but useless to say anything meaningful about a system IMO.
  - homarp 8y ago
    I can't find any guarantee on reliability for Backblaze, their SLA ( https://www.backblaze.com/company/sla.html https://www.backblaze.com/company/sla.html ) has "Backblaze will make commercially reasonable efforts to ensure that B2 Cloud Storage is available and able to successfully process requests during at minimum 99.9% of each calendar month. "
- nathankunicki 8y ago
  Can I ask, what makes that setup "not cloud" vs Amazon S3? Amazon doesn't make public their hardware setup, merely that they offer various "9s" of reliability against data loss. What if, for arguments sake, Amazon's secret setup is exactly the same as Hertzner hardware wise, with Amazon merely putting a number against the reliability that setup offers?
  - krn 8y ago
    > Can I ask, what makes that setup "not cloud" vs Amazon S3? "The data is not mirrored onto other servers." says it all. It's like renting some shared space on a dedicated server with auto-monitoring.

krn 8y ago

Hetzner is a bare-metal company operating since 1997, which hasn't released a cloud-based storage yet. "Your files on Storage Boxes are safeguarded with a RAID configuration which can withstand several drive failures. Therefore, there is a relatively small chance of data being lost. Please note, however, that you are responsible for your data and there is no guarantee from Hetzner against potential loss of data. The data is not mirrored onto other servers." https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Storage_Boxes/en#Reliability https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Storage_Boxes/en#Reliabili...

m_mueller 8y ago
Thank you - so it‘s just less redundant than e.g. Backblaze (I assume). That‘s an important distinction. See, I‘m not a fan of using buzzwords to describe anything in more detail. „Cloud“, „AI“, „Big Data“, „NoSQL“ etc. is (sometimes) fine to get non technical people interested, but useless to say anything meaningful about a system IMO.
- homarp 8y ago
  I can't find any guarantee on reliability for Backblaze, their SLA ( https://www.backblaze.com/company/sla.html https://www.backblaze.com/company/sla.html ) has "Backblaze will make commercially reasonable efforts to ensure that B2 Cloud Storage is available and able to successfully process requests during at minimum 99.9% of each calendar month. "
nathankunicki 8y ago
Can I ask, what makes that setup "not cloud" vs Amazon S3? Amazon doesn't make public their hardware setup, merely that they offer various "9s" of reliability against data loss. What if, for arguments sake, Amazon's secret setup is exactly the same as Hertzner hardware wise, with Amazon merely putting a number against the reliability that setup offers?
- krn 8y ago
  > Can I ask, what makes that setup "not cloud" vs Amazon S3? "The data is not mirrored onto other servers." says it all. It's like renting some shared space on a dedicated server with auto-monitoring.