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> much higher bandwidth than copper It can't. Coax can easily support Gbps connections (I used to have a 800 Mbps connection where the last few meters were ove
by ucaetano 8y ago
> much higher bandwidth than copper
It can't. Coax can easily support Gbps connections (I used to have a 800 Mbps connection where the last few meters were over regular coax).
Now if you're talking about "why can't my copper twisted pair support that bandwidth", then it is a function of quality (the twisted pair is likely old, heavily bended, subject to interference, and running over old technologies.
Bandwidth is essentially a function of 2 things: spectrum availability (measured in Hz) and spectral efficiency (measured in bits/second/Hz).
For example, if a carrier "owns" 20 MHz of spectrum (let's say, from 700 MHz to 720 MHz), split in two symmetrical up/down channels, with a spectral efficiency of 4bps/Hz (a common value for LTE), and the cell towers have 3 sectors, each cell tower can provide 2043/2 120 Mbps up and down (although only 40 Mbps max per device, since a device can only be in one sector).
In wired communications, spectrum is less of a limit: every single wire has the full spectrum available. And if you are using fiber, then there is no interference, both from outside the wire or from different signals.
So air will never beat wired, because every single strand of wire has, in practice, the entire capacity of air.
PS: There are more things in play, such as attenuation, actual frequencies used (1 to 2 MHz has 1 MHz of spectrum; 1 to 2 GHz has 1000x more spectrum and therefore more capacity), etc.
- whatshisface 8y agoThe group velocity[0] of an electromagnetic wave in copper is about 95% as fast in copper as it is in air, so that's going to add a few nanoseconds to the ideal latency. [0] The speed of light, but not the speed of light.
- ucaetano 8y agoYes, and that has been exploited in some situations (like trading). But besides those marginal cases, the impact is irrelevant.
- foobarian 8y agoIIRC the wireless modulations got more attention because of the spectrum scarcity and so are very efficient coming close to the Shannon limit. I don't know if the same is true for wired; at least Ethernet uses a pretty dumb modulation and started out focusing on other useful features such as simple hardware, listen before talk, etc.
- ucaetano 8y agoYou don't really care that much about modulation when you have gigahertz of spectrum to work with, and the cost to add another wire (or fiber) is marginal.
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- kbeckmann 8y agoNice explanation! I think you accidentally made a formatting typo: "each cell tower can provide 2043/2 120 Mbps", the 4 is probably surrounded by asterisks.
- ucaetano 8y agoYep! I had the asterisks, but HN converted it to italics. It should be 20 * 4 * 3 / 2 = 120
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