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Well, this depends entirely on your ethics. According to the article, the system previously involved intensive, bureaucratic questioning of undocumented immigr

Well, this depends entirely on your ethics. According to the article, the system previously involved intensive, bureaucratic questioning of undocumented immigrants after which the system would come to some kind of decision. Since we're dealing with apprehended, undocumented immigrants, I would have no problem whatsoever changing the software to recommend detention. It certainly seems better than a semi-arbitrary decision no human can explain. The whole idea of letting them go and setting a court date seems preposterous, a waste of everyone's time and resources, and they aren't incentivized to go - if they're willing to enter the country illegally, why would they not be willing to miss a court date? It's just a circus, for show. The whole system is broken - why detain these people at all? They should be deported, not jailed and given a show trial. You may disagree, and that's fair. I would argue that nations have borders and nobody had a problem with this for centuries. You might argue the world is changing, open borders are the only just and fair thing due to human welfare concerns. But there is a reasonable debate to be had and it seems really glib to dismiss the engineers who did this as people who should be on a nuremberg trial.

atonse 8y ago
I don't actually disagree too much with what you're saying (regarding enforcing borders, etc). But why have a sham scoring system if you're just going to rig it? That's where the ethics come in. Because you bet your ass that they'd be using the score of this system to justify what are essentially racially motivated actions. There are arguments to be said that if a lot of these people had a legal way to enter and leave, they actually wouldn't stay the whole time. After all, most people want to be in their homeland and with their culture, and not always feel like second class citizens. But their need for jobs keeps them in a place like here.
anigbrowl 8y ago
If the outcome is predetermined why have the software and perform the evaluation at all? It's taking considerable time and resources to perpetuate a fakery. That's different from simply having a new policy of detaining everyone. Instead, ICE officers are pretending to gather information to make a decision whose outcome was decided in advance. Why is that?

atonse 8y ago

I don't actually disagree too much with what you're saying (regarding enforcing borders, etc). But why have a sham scoring system if you're just going to rig it? That's where the ethics come in. Because you bet your ass that they'd be using the score of this system to justify what are essentially racially motivated actions. There are arguments to be said that if a lot of these people had a legal way to enter and leave, they actually wouldn't stay the whole time. After all, most people want to be in their homeland and with their culture, and not always feel like second class citizens. But their need for jobs keeps them in a place like here.

anigbrowl 8y ago

If the outcome is predetermined why have the software and perform the evaluation at all? It's taking considerable time and resources to perpetuate a fakery. That's different from simply having a new policy of detaining everyone. Instead, ICE officers are pretending to gather information to make a decision whose outcome was decided in advance. Why is that?