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I don't think I've ever heard cryptosecurity disputes being described in such a...visceral manner.
by ergothus 8y ago
I don't think I've ever heard cryptosecurity disputes being described in such a...visceral manner.
- hueving 8y agoMincing words isn't a good idea for this sort of thing. This is becoming a standard that will be used to protect the data of a billion+ users over time as devices get upgraded.
- pvg 8y agoVisceral would be 'fetid pile of maggot-ridden pig intestines'. 'Backwater' is practically bucolic.
- tptacek 8y agoI assumed they were referring to Trevor's IETF posts; the Igoe and Dragonfly comments he posted are about as intemperate as I've ever seen him, in any venue. He is not an angry dude.
- pvg 8y agoOh! I only read the first thing you linked at first so maybe misunderstood. It does heat up a bit after but only seems 'visceral' in the way showing a bit of ankle is 'racy'. Then again, I don't know anything about the civility baseline of the list or people involved.
- twr 8y agoI mean, if you want visceral, there is this shameful email from Dan Harkins: https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tls/current/msg10971.html https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tls/current/msg10971.h...
- pvg 8y agoI didn't really follow it very far, I did notice Dan Harkins quickly got assholier-than-thou. But there's no shortage of crypto or general tech talk that is worse.